Russian or western?

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Please help professional anti-crisis investment advice.
I want a modest savings to buy a picture on the wall hanging. Inexpensive (say, 1,000 euros. At the suggestion of the forum participants the amount increased to 10,000 euros. A Pom for the same reason to change currency to pounds. Now, 10,000 lbs.),: Eek : but so that it has some real value (in Moscow): eek:: eek: and it can be safely bequeath to future generations. : eek:: eek:: eek: ...
Not modern, and relatively old, turn of 19-20 centuries. For example, a still life or landscape some pleasant to the eye, and to let the artist was unknown, but they really existed.

Q: it is more profitable (in the sense that it will be more valuable) - purchased at a Moscow gallery Russian artist or gallery eropeyskoy European? At random it seems that in the European galleries in the price of similar pattern significantly lower (dropped a couple of times). From an aesthetic point of view of love in equal measure and both.

Neighbors have always seemed to be nicer for the same money poke a finger in the picture: "Here, the type he had brought from Antwerp ...!!!" : shy: What "The lover grandparents with the century before last remained": cool:. And as far as soovetstvuet investment reality?

I understand that the question of discharge: "And who do you love more - mom or dad?" Nevertheless? Where to put something?

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Сообщение от bend

on the old, turn of 19-20 centuries. For example, a still life or landscape some pleasant to the eye, and to let the artist was unknown, but they really existed.

Сообщение от bend

inexpensive (say, 1,000 euros),

Russian? Problematic ...
But I think now you local dealers napredlagayut-"cheap and evil" ... : D: D: D

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Would you like to say that the West, by definition cheaper?

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Would you say that the West, by definition cheaper?

  bend, just "western" You'll be able to choose their thousands at Western auctions, for example. Sredezemnomorskuyu, Nordic, Eastern European, etc.
A "Russian"? A dozen if offered ... from power. Yes, I imagine these "masterpieces" ...
For the money and falshak "good not sell ...
But read the l /s, I think the evening you go "threw" masterpieces ... : D: D: D

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Would you say that the West, by definition cheaper?

We - yes, ... 95 percent of our collectors collect Russian paintings .. warming the demand and price (which is now in a crisis situation is a little different, but sooner or later come back to my place) ... and European painting, valued names !!... but for 1000 euros, you will hardly find a Cezanne or Monet ... My advice - look for something from the 60-80-years ... you can buy a good, raduyuschuyu eyes now for the price attributable to ...

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Russian? Problematic ...

Right.
And I told you about a French artist with Russian roots talking.
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According to my notions, if only the Russian knows - that he, in fact, has no international fame?

The whole world knows.

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The whole world knows.

I was imprecise. It would be more accurate to say - speak, ie assessed at its true worth and the amount paid accordingly. And then as a PR Russia's government turns out - to their respected - in New York have placed articles.

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It would be more accurate to say - speak, ie assessed at its true worth and the amount paid accordingly.

When he was there to buy full swing, here is his name as an artist no one knew.
He thundered seriously in the early 60's., And in 69 died.

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I do not mean this particular example. Information was gathered only from the information itself. See, the question: in Moscow the price - excellent. Especially in Russian. Foreign - the day the fire is not hard to find. Although, like in life, then it many times more.

And all because - only in recent years. There is a suspicion that artificially clocked price. And me - nothing to cover up the hole. That is, if I am now (even in a crisis prices) to buy in Moscow - a high probability that it turns out that this was the peak of the market.

And it can be compared new works. None of what 16-17-18 century in Moscow and in Russia as a whole in general, no speech. Neither of Russian or of foreign.

At the same time

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For consistency, in my opinion, it is best to buy an old European masters (you can schedule, and the idea that everything is wildly expensive, wrong) - it is absolutely not a speculative market that is growing slowly but constantly, or the art of the late 19 - the first half of 20 centuries. It is sure that these things do not go down in price.

people of European education do not hesitate to boldly give worthwhile and argued advice to the beginner. Thank you.

Actually, for the sake of these different opinions and open this topic. I just a few hours much understood. Live communication - a great thing. Thanks to everyone responded. Do any of these as I find this branch and also read. See the new responses.

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And in general, by the way, is it true that the French are more expensive in France, the Americans - in America, the Dutch - in the Netherlands, the Russian - in Russia, etc.?

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Italians seem to be more expensive than it is outside of Italy?

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Well distracted ... account lost ... must begin anew ... six quadrillion ...
And do not believe it - all the money in the investment component made by buying only Russian. Native means. In response to the soul and time ...

By the way, keep in mind that the Central Bank of Russia - is a Limited Liability Company.
"The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, as well as the Bank of Russia - for the obligations of the state."
http://www.cbr.ru/today/status_functions/

Possessing rubles in soums, which pleased to say out loud, it is worth remembering, and limited liability produced them.

"In God We Trust" - this is extremely non-Russian format of mutual obligations, the expression of whom are money.

Is the rate of the ruble return on assets valued in absolute terms? Probably not, and for the future in 20 years - probably neither. Way in the subject matter something.

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bend, look.

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Polyakov - 850000

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????

The average Polyakov large cost about 450 thousand euros.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
And compare with the "Previous sales and prices.
http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/158...=П&page=7