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Old 31-03-2012, 18:49 Original language: Russian        #1
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Default How to create and develop the infrastructure of art?

Topic name may not be entirely successful, but think it is better not happen.

Constant thread from one topic to another suggests that the Russian art market is either weak, or it at all. As they say over there in the West or the East is even better.

About the East, in particular, was mentioned in connection with the sensational buying for $ 250 million Cezanne. But how then noticed Pavel, not the fact that the picture will generally be put on public display and easy-Qataris will be given a chance to marvel at such an important painting, and indeed the evidence of purchase of anything else, as a that money out there very very very much, all the most expensive is bought on line the most expensive art.

Is this the development of art in this country? I would say that there is not, although as a side effect because of the hype - a small percentage of Qataris and other Gulf residents look into the internet to ask who is Cezanne. Of this small percentage an even smaller percentage of can more generally interested in art and would look and read more and more. This tiny percentage, and there is hope for future changes.

The other side of the coin.

A country where everyone knows everything about art. Country, "in which you are surrounded by art from the top, bottom and sides," as told to me by a friend of the Arab - Italy. In Italy, everything is very bad with the economy and therefore art out there, not that does not develop, there is no money to restore it, even priceless, which from the top, bottom and sides

Paradox.

Watched a heart-rending, which interviewed various Italian cultural figures, a selection of characters that is was a great All were primarily interested enthusiasts (about the same warehouse, and a sister Prokhorov - Irina), but not those who sit in the workplace, getting paid and then could not care less. But the conclusion was very tragic - no art, no culture can not be the development of society can not progress, the evolution is impossible. That art is a special matter, which gives a special boost, or awakens in the minds and hearts, without which we would have remained primitive creatures.

That is, money for the arts are needed. Money are public and are private. But what should be in the first place, and that in the second?
As it should be balanced and how to awaken interest as to involve people as motivate them? I would like to hear from members of the forum. How do you see this situation?

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Old 31-03-2012, 19:07 Original language: Russian        #2
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good name of the topic.

artcol, please, are also set out your ideas.
I know you have a lot of them.

I would like to issue a discussion format, where the truth must appear <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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artcol, please, are also set out your ideas . I know you have a lot of them .
Ideas on what? How to attract money ?

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We need to develop culture in general .
This is a very blurry. The culture of consumption of spirits ? Sex ? Driving a /m ? What?




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culture of consumption of alcoholic beverages ? Sex ? Driving a /m ? What?
"The culture of consumption of hard liquor " - a Soviet newspaper strains , as, indeed, "driving a /m " - possovetsky .
Journalists have the word "culture " for the eye candy and even used to raise the debate a step further .
"Proper use of spirits ," " correct driving a /m " - it would be more appropriate , but duller . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->



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We must leave aside the culture and return to the discussion of contemporary Russian art market . As to the project while it is in deep crisis. I know that on this subject firmly believe bright minds . Discussed quite tech tricks as this market can be re-run . In connection with the specifics of the moment , many are turning to the state as a source of resource for this run. The situation is not hopeless , but time is working against us. A new solvent for the audience this time can switch to "import" , where all debugged and clear.
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money for the arts are needed.
It's not just about money.
And maybe not even them.
That is,
what we were.
Money is given - and in the end?
Bullshit (as they say on the forum).



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It's not just about money . And maybe not even them. That is, what we were . Money is given - and in the end? Bullshit ( as they say on the forum )
It is clear that the money should be accompanied by brains, but that in any area , so not only in the arts .
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We need to develop culture in general .
I agree . But I would like to narrow the debate in the art is , first -topic forum , and secondly the vast majority of professional participants of the forum is aware of the problems firsthand , and as it is going through them daily.
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It is clear that the money should be accompanied by brains, but that in any area of ​​the case.

I agree . But I would like to narrow the debate in the art is , first -topic forum , and secondly the vast majority of professional participants of the forum is aware of the problems firsthand , and as it is going through them daily .
It is better to agree on terms.
culture
art
plastic Arts
Visual arts

Speaking for the last - that would agree . And if at all - it is not certain that
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How to create and develop the infrastructure of art ?
What is it? Showrooms ?




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It is better to agree on terms.
culture
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plastic Arts
Visual arts
Art of any trends and genres , which, for example, is exposed on the Ven . Biennale , Paper , etc., sold at Tefaf , Christie's , Sotheby's , Phillips de Pury . Is that better ?
I'm afraid that if this list of terms that I myself have to climb in the Dictionary of Contemporary and write out all names , listing the latest trends , which do not come across every day , but nevertheless, there are a great and valued in the range of specialists .
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