That's such trouble, can I recover it?

[Пелагея Ларина]

Here are two works Vyalov KA ....

With pain in my heart waiting for a sentence of experienced members of the forum .... Here is a condition ... How difficult and expensive restoration in this case?
And it even possible?


1. 'On the Volga "x /m 40x60 (lost fragment of ~ 1,5 x1, 5cm)


2.
"Rain", 1950.
x /m 32h49

[Пелагея Ларина]

Vyalov Konstantin 04/19/1900 - 1976
One of the founders of the OST. In 1914-17 he studied at the Stroganov School of Industrial Art, 1918-20 - at the State Free Art Workshops with A. Morgunova, Wassily Kandinsky, Vladimir Tatlin, in 1920-24 - in VHUTEMAS from J. Shterenberg. In the early 1920's did kontrrelefy and abstract compositions under the influence of Kazimir Malevich and Wassily Kandinsky.
As a painter Vyalov was created in 1924 a member of the Society (OST).
The Society had such great masters as Deineka, Y. Pimenov, P. Williams, A. Labas, A. Tyshler, A. Goncharov. The main purpose of these artists was to create a painting on a modern theme, written by a new language, the rejection of literary narrative.
The artist's works were exhibited at international exhibitions in Paris (1925), Berlin (1927, 1928), Venice (1932), New York (1933), London (1934). The works are in the Tretyakov Gallery, timing and other museum collections.

[Toinen]

Dear Pelagia Larin, leaving the question of authorship, I will say about the technical side and essentially asked the question:

Nothing wrong with the state of art in your photos I saw, all fixable.
The only thing that I would necessarily sdelel - changed the existing stretchers on a stretcher with wedges, so you can stretch the canvas. Restoration is not too expensive.

[Seriy]

Pelagia Larin, I am not a restorer, but sympathize with you. Just do not quite understand what the problem. In the second case, only the tails? it is treated tapered to a new sub-frame can gently moisten.
In the first case? is torn canvas and paint chunks fly off together with the ground?
And more to the left of the boat any dash, and the rain right dark band is that?

[Пелагея Ларина]

Сообщение от Seriy

B] Pelagia Larin[/B], I am not a restorer, but sympathize with you. Just do not quite understand what the problem. In the second case, only the tails? it is treated tapered to a new sub-frame can gently moisten.
In the first case? is torn canvas and paint chunks fly off together with the ground?

Canvas is in order. Dye flies pieces together with the ground.
On the second paint job, too, hardly "breathes" and kaakaya a gray band.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

It is easy and inexpensive.

Dear Cyril!

Time is not difficult and not expensive, you tell me - where?

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Сообщение от Pelagia Larina

tell me, please - where?

Well, you do in Moscow, where thousands of restorers.

We have to look at this section of the forum Restoration.

[Пелагея Ларина]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Well, you are also in Moscow, where thousands of restorers.
We have to look at this section of the forum Restoration.

And among the thousands that, can anyone advise a specific person - an honest and conscientious professional. If I'd known - would not ask because .... Can be personal.

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Сообщение от Seriy

Pelagia Larin, then it is not so simple and cheap, imho. You need to strengthen the paint layer, m e to put him back on the new adhesive, and then duplicate the canvas, plus record the loss. A dark band is treated as in-general can not imagine ... what is it? Iron someone walked?, on the back of the canvas on this site is darkening, or that a thread?

Canvas on the back of the net. Maybe that's dirty or burnt out so band, I do not know, I'm afraid to touch.

[Seriy]

Pelagia Larin, then it is not so simple and cheap, imho. You need to strengthen the paint layer, m e to put him back on the new adhesive, and then duplicate the canvas, plus record the loss. A dark band is treated as in-general can not imagine ... what is it? Iron someone walked?, on the back of the canvas on this site is darkening or what thread?

[Toinen]

Сообщение от Seriy

then duplicate the canvas

And this is why?

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Сообщение от Seriy

And how is treated with a dark stripe, does not represent ...

And you do not need, the restorer will understand.

[Seriy]

most likely, a dark band is just dirt, EM canvas was covered, but this band is not and it was getting the dust.

I am interested in pigments in the painting and everything that happens to them, so I'm asking.