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vancoover · 09-03-2010, 13:51

Who can be the author of this picture, and what value it has?
Watercolor. Dimensions: 32h24 see thank you in advance.

Игорь Гурьев · 09-03-2010, 20:09

Yes no value, it does not.

vancoover · 10-03-2010, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor

Yes, no value it has.

Is it so emphatically?
Picture taken from Germany in 1945, inherited by inheritance, and to talk, she catalog. I'm interested not so much its value as the origin.

Игорь Гурьев · 11-03-2010, 03:16

Well see for yourself. In the foreground ship scale destroyer, and looks like a model ship.

Bukaf do not disassemble any.

Артём · 11-03-2010, 11:29

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Originally Posted by vancoover

The picture taken from Germany in 1945, inherited by inheritance, and to talk, she catalog. I'm interested not so much its value as the origin.

Your picture must be split in half. At the bottom of the ship is made by another author, and not bad. For ship background - mountains (gray-blue color) is scheduled.
Therefore, the two signatures above and below the ship. That's who painted this ship may help other forum members?

Amateur · 11-03-2010, 11:45

Signed on your watercolor reads Schnars-Alquist. There was a very famous German artist and marine painter Karl Wilhelm Hugo Shnars-Liimola (Carl Wilhelm Hugo Schnars-Alquist, 1855 - 1939). See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Schnars-Alquist. He painted mostly in oil on canvas, watercolor, wrote extremely rare. I managed to find his original signature on a painting with oil (see attachment) - it is similar to that on your watercolors. But the signature on the watercolors may not match the signature of the artist's paintings, but simply to be the same as he signed, for example, letters or documents.

So there are three possibilities.
First - an original watercolor Shnars-Liimola something like a rapid preliminary outline. To confirm this, we must look for the signature of the artist in a watercolor or paper.
Second - this is someone with a copy of Shnars-Liimola.
Third - is the work of any pupil of the artist. Ship pririsoval Shnars-Liimola, and his signature - not them. And perhaps, the ship was drawn before, and landscape pririsoval later - someone else.

Amateur · 11-03-2010, 13:25

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Originally Posted by vancoover

And I'm interested not so much its value as the origin.

Not if your interest is due to the fact that you have read the signature watercolor above "Fr WII Prince 8 /5 9" ( "9" Improved the pencil on the "93") as "Friedrich Wilhelm II Prince"? Tempting ... if this is not the name of the ship. For the full name of Wilhelm II was Friedrich Wilhelm Victor Albert. Runner-one "but": he is from the Crown Prince became emperor as early as 1888 and signed "Wilhelm R" (R=Rex).

Артём · 11-03-2010, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Amateur

It is tempting ... if this is not the name of the ship.

Feeling that the name of the ship and the picture is originally bad.

09-03-2010, 13:51	Original language: Russian #1
vancoover Новичок Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Reputation: 0	Please appreciate painting Who can be the author of this picture, and what value it has? Watercolor. Dimensions: 32h24 see thank you in advance. Attached Thumbnails

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Amateur Гуру Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Россия, СПб Posts: 1,715 Thanks: 1,838 Thanked 3,879 Times in 698 Posts Reputation: 7406	Signed on your watercolor reads Schnars-Alquist. There was a very famous German artist and marine painter Karl Wilhelm Hugo Shnars-Liimola (Carl Wilhelm Hugo Schnars-Alquist, 1855 - 1939). See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Schnars-Alquist. He painted mostly in oil on canvas, watercolor, wrote extremely rare. I managed to find his original signature on a painting with oil (see attachment) - it is similar to that on your watercolors. But the signature on the watercolors may not match the signature of the artist's paintings, but simply to be the same as he signed, for example, letters or documents. So there are three possibilities. First - an original watercolor Shnars-Liimola something like a rapid preliminary outline. To confirm this, we must look for the signature of the artist in a watercolor or paper. Second - this is someone with a copy of Shnars-Liimola. Third - is the work of any pupil of the artist. Ship pririsoval Shnars-Liimola, and his signature - not them. And perhaps, the ship was drawn before, and landscape pririsoval later - someone else. Attached Thumbnails

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Игорь Гурьев Гуру Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: город П. Posts: 4,939 Thanks: 6,544 Thanked 6,620 Times in 2,829 Posts Reputation: 13305	Yes no value, it does not.

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Игорь Гурьев Гуру Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: город П. Posts: 4,939 Thanks: 6,544 Thanked 6,620 Times in 2,829 Posts Reputation: 13305	Well see for yourself. In the foreground ship scale destroyer, and looks like a model ship. Bukaf do not disassemble any.