What is taught in school?

[inega]

I present you the 2 pages from the textbook "The secrets of our language" Author: MS

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[inega]

[Yurko]

Yes the Russian language is the most original and complex .. I'm in Russia was troeshnikom on Russian chzyku ..

[inega]

Сообщение от Yurko

Yes the Russian language is the most original and complex .. I'm in Russia was troeshnikom on Russian chzyku .. and periehal Ukraine became an excellent student ... More stories about the shoe, bubble and stick

If it were not so sad ... The program was approved by the Ministry of Education and Science. To her bought workbooks (about 4 pieces to each item), and the text in the textbook - durkovaty ! (Love that word).

[Tana]

because if thrown out the ideology is very good textbooks have been, and rewrite them almost every year, although not without rewriting the same ...

Sadly, it's hard to understand the issues in these textbooks

[Тютчев]

If we talk about the first task, then it is a distorted, simplicity of the job, which gave his students our famous philologist, academician Scherba. The idea was that if you are familiar with basic grammatical features of one or another part of speech, even without knowing the meaning of words, you will be able to determine that before you - a verb, noun or adjective, a noun, ie his family, number, case, declension. And for training Shcherba gave dismantle a small little story that consists entirely of invented words to them. But such exercises are appropriate, of course, for those who are already largely familiar with the basic grammatical features, in this case, the noun. In other words, apparently, children are invited to identify any kind are given words, and given two words with diminutive suffixes. But, if we assume a 5-class when the primary an introduction to basic Russian children have been studied in elementary school, this kind of job it is entirely appropriate that in the 2 class this task does not develop an understanding of a child, but simply teaches him to memorize something either on a purely formal, not even conscious of the grounds. There is no child's development, his ability to learn, and increases the load on memory.

On the second task. Of course, the question Who? can not be characterized SUBJECT. In this case, the authors once again come from: 1) a formal understanding that there are animate and inanimate objects, and 2) from a philosophical understanding SUBSTANTIVE the world. Children should not memorize, but understand! Otherwise, not enough for a whole lifetime to learn all that is necessary in life. In addition, with this assignment violated the continuity of the learning process. In other words, children are taught that a noun refers to only the object, and when a 5-class is the concept of expanding (noun may denote not only the subject but also a sense, natural, social and other phenomena, the name of action, etc.), then the children just have to retrain, and not go with them on. As for the author's program, developed by one of the authors of textbooks, Soloveitchik, it actually achieves a high level of literacy among their students, but, unfortunately, the kids just memorize, but do not understand, and their knowledge in other contexts (not in class) are, non-use. Experiment system Soloveitchik held in many regions of our country, but precisely because of the fact that it is based on memorization and not on knowledge, not on an understanding of many schools to abandon it.
Moskvsky Department of Education, apparently, took (8 years ago), this is not a new textbook (Soloveitchik program for approximately 20 years), because

[Tana]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

If we talk about the first task, then it is a distorted, simplicity of the job, which gave his students our famous philologist, academician Shcherba.

but in this case the task for the student class 2


Children should not memorize, but understand! Otherwise, not enough for a whole lifetime to learn all that is necessary in life. [/QUOTE]

and yet we have been taught well, and had the 10 years in school to learn the basics!
Well I do not remember that was before such ignorance as it is now very rarely met people who have written with mistakes, and now, quite often (I was in school from 1974 to 1984) and how many extra classes, electives, all for free, it was would desire.

 several friends showed school assignments, indeed, difficult to understand what they were and what-the development of logic, etc. etc., at a time when the child can not solve simple arithmetical puzzle.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Tana

and in this case the task for the student class 2

What is it and ... It is a task for the 5 th grade ...

Сообщение от Tana

and yet we have been taught well, and had the 10 years in school to learn the basics!
Well I do not remember that was before such ignorance as it is now very rarely met people who have written with mistakes, and now, quite often (I was in school from 1974 to 1984) and how many extra classes, electives, all for free, it was would desire.

 several friends showed school assignments, indeed, difficult to understand what they were and what-the development of logic, etc. etc., at a time when the child can not solve simple arithmetical puzzle.

I agree with you on 100%! Now we are experiencing difficult times in this sense ... But the science is still evolving and offers a new ... Another thing is that the scientists do not listen, and use outdated teaching methods and content ... There is a modern courses (and they are introduced here and there), but break nowadays it is not easy. And where did manage, the results of the stunning ...

[NATA NOVA]

There should be "Tweedledee" (it's not clear?)

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