Auction "Russian and West European art of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries," Nov. 12 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Natalina · 09-11-2008, 20:15

At the auction Sovkoma November 12 will be on display 2 in VD Polenova (Lot 97, http://www.sovcom.ru/auctions/lot.ph...9&status = and Lot 98, http://www.sovcom.ru /auctions /lot....& status =). The question arises as lot 98 - Genisaretskoe lake. Cycle From the Life of Christ ". 1900 - e gg. Canvas, maslo.49h74. Signed lower right. Why are the experts of the auction house did not provide provenance for the work of this level (because the lower estimate of 16.5 million rubles) and assessment?

Lisa · 09-11-2008, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Natalina

Why do auction house experts did not provide provenance of the work of this level (because the lower estimate of 16.5 million rubles) and examination?

Probably once again unfold a long controversy as to the picture Deineki "traveling girl" with the auction Triumph of Socialist Realism, leytmotifom will confirm that Dejneka - expensive artist.

Allena · 10-11-2008, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Lisa

leytmotifom will confirm that Dejneka - expensive artist.

Lisa! Explain your idea!

Евгений · 10-11-2008, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Lisa

leytmotifom will confirm

The leitmotif of the discussion was not the price for now, but the lack of information on the top lot.

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Originally Posted by Natalina

Why do auction house experts did not provide provenance of the work of this level (because the lower estimate of 16.5 million rubles) and examination?

This is a disease of the auction house .. Discuss it makes no sense.

Allena · 10-11-2008, 14:46

Generally speaking, really strange that a once a once things are set up for auction estimate: a rather big, well-known signatures, and the complete lack of provenance.
This train Polenov Still, it's not avant-garde and Socialist Realism, which can (theoretically at a stretch) arise out of nothingness, that is, the many reservists, zahoronok, attics, and other special funds are not entirely suitable for the storage of works of art creation.

Кирилл Сызранский · 10-11-2008, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Allena

Generally speaking, really strange that a once a once things are set up for auction estimate: a rather big, well-known signatures, and the complete lack of provenance.

Maybe it's this style? Respond to questions raised on the provenance of pre-auction showings?

Евгений · 10-11-2008, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

answer the questions raised on the provenance of pre-auction showings?

Ignore the Internet?, But then why so much money invested in the promotion of its own site, and site ARTinvestment.RU major advertisers.
Statistics on the forum ARTinvestment.RU (more than 3000 visits per day), it's about how many people read them every day? And information on top lots .. zero style? Not done it yet ..

Кирилл Сызранский · 12-11-2008, 14:57

And you will see the numbers of care for today's auction?

Konstantin · 12-11-2008, 16:21

Sure will. They sent us the results. How fast? In different ways - sometimes day two, and that sensational triumph - 1.5 weeks.

Кирилл Сызранский · 16-11-2008, 17:33

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Sure would. They sent us the results. How fast? In different ways - sometimes day two, and that sensational triumph - 1.5 weeks.

Do not give more results Sovkom 12.1108?

09-11-2008, 20:15	Original language: Russian #1
Natalina Guest Posts: n/a	Auction "Russian and West European art of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries," Nov. 12 At the auction Sovkoma November 12 will be on display 2 in VD Polenova (Lot 97, http://www.sovcom.ru/auctions/lot.ph...9&status = and Lot 98, http://www.sovcom.ru /auctions /lot....& status =). The question arises as lot 98 - Genisaretskoe lake. Cycle From the Life of Christ ". 1900 - e gg. Canvas, maslo.49h74. Signed lower right. Why are the experts of the auction house did not provide provenance for the work of this level (because the lower estimate of 16.5 million rubles) and assessment?

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10-11-2008, 14:46	Original language: Russian #5
Allena Гуру Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Москва Posts: 5,170 Thanks: 14,181 Thanked 6,377 Times in 1,656 Posts Reputation: 13104	Generally speaking, really strange that a once a once things are set up for auction estimate: a rather big, well-known signatures, and the complete lack of provenance. This train Polenov Still, it's not avant-garde and Socialist Realism, which can (theoretically at a stretch) arise out of nothingness, that is, the many reservists, zahoronok, attics, and other special funds are not entirely suitable for the storage of works of art creation.

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Кирилл Сызранский Гуру Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: РФ, Самара Posts: 75,397 Thanks: 27,867 Thanked 55,330 Times in 24,283 Posts Blog Entries: 126 Reputation: 102390	And you will see the numbers of care for today's auction?

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Konstantin Гуру Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,415 Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 29,854 Times in 6,714 Posts Blog Entries: 10 Reputation: 27272	Sure will. They sent us the results. How fast? In different ways - sometimes day two, and that sensational triumph - 1.5 weeks.