Two Portraits

[Mark]

Dear forum users! Maybe someone will recognize in these portraits of real historical figures? Portraits to be painted GN Gorelova.
"Bald" (provisional name): x /m, 134h112 see, in 1935;
"The Pianist" (code name): x /m, 102h135 5, 1936;
So far, my attempts to establish the accuracy of personality were not successful. For every photo> - like similar, and like not. By Order of Lenin (1934-1943gg.) And lists of awards - also disconnect, although until 1936 it was awarded a few people.
"Bald" is similar to the ID Papanina, only here the first Order of Lenin, he was awarded in 1937, but not in 1935, when the portrait was painted (can be a postscript?). A red banner he received in 1922 ...
"The Pianist" is like MN Tukhachevskogo. I received the Order of Lenin in 1933. But why is it without tabs (smeared?).
Maybe someone encountered such "historical examination" whether there are people, organizations who undertake a similar work?
Maybe some association with someone else will? I would be grateful for any tips. Our colleague Gorelov also failed to identify the work.
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On the role of the pianist has another challenger - AS Bubnov, People's Commissar of Education of the RSFSR, was shot in 1938

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In my opinion, nor Papanina or on Tukhachevskogo characters are not like your portraits.

[Allena]

Of course, it is not them. The forum is the grandson of GN Gorelov - gorelov. Maybe it will help you understand.

[Mark]

Сообщение от Allena

Of course, it is not they

If they were, then the topic would not have been this
Similarity, of course, there is a remote, but to be recognized as a great desire to be.
Special on the history, the archives said that this case is generally lethal to identify them if they were persecuted and, assume shot, because personal affairs of such people are often destroyed, and even sheets of premium black out their names. True or not - I do not know.
According to experts, is some major Soviet or party officials in those years .... And ...
I was hoping that from the subconscious that something will pop up from the people, it happens sometimes
And another question is raised: whether any thread of offices, which are doing this?

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Сообщение от Mark

spice on the history, the archives said that this case is generally lethal to identify them if they were persecuted and, assume shot, because personal affairs of such people are often destroyed, and even sheets of premium black out their names. True or not - I do not know.

There is an example of how the forces forumchan was identified by one portrayed. From represirovannyh too.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=21005

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Allena, already seems to have addressed by topic.

Сообщение от Mark

Our colleague Gorelov, too, failed to identify the work.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Allena, already seems to have addressed by topic.

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Our colleague Gorelov, too, failed to identify the work.

Sorry, at the end of the day reading - and looked over this phrase.

Wladzislaw, and clothing shown in the first portrait might have something to tell? I think that has a value of its blue color.

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

I would advise composers

Yes, and military composers. Incidentally, there is another option: military experts "from the former, and then, unfortunately, most likely, was repressed.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Allena

Wladzislaw, and clothing shown in the first portrait might have something to tell? I think that has a value of its blue color.

Perhaps something and then. I do not know. Maybe see what books on naval uniform, and may not be military. Rather, all the same, something shaped, if you look at the buttons ... Any teacher ...

[Mark]

Allena, Wladzislaw, thanks! People are also advised to try his luck, turning to the Office of Presidential Personnel and State awards. Specifically, when prompted by the Order of Lenin it worked: all data on the award, date, № etc.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Mark

Allena, Wladzislaw, thanks! People are also advised to try his luck, turning to the Office of Presidential Personnel and State awards. Specifically, when prompted by the Order of Lenin it worked: all the data on the award, date, №, etc.

You can, of course, to shift the task to others, but do not understand why they would do what you want. If you obscure the facts of the original ...