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манна · 13.05.2009, 22:05

Dear professional, have your say. The left picture will be at the May auction in the gallery Shishkin (Zatulovskaya RS Lot 64) http://www.shishkin-gallery.ru/aucti...523_page4.html, but I found right on the Internet (although it no picture, and reproduction on a postcard) http://otkritka-reprodukzija.blogspo...ya (born 1924) How do you think a Shishkina - sketch for the second picture is a fake or something third?

Кирилл Сызранский · 13.05.2009, 22:11

manna, and you are the author's repetition is not an option number 3?

Glasha · 13.05.2009, 23:01

Option scene, of course, is no longer (on the image, not to mention the later years of writing),
and repeat it ..?,
can wait dedulya37 - can he find out what happens (Zatulovskaya RS and Zatulovskaya II - circle Maslovka)

манна · 14.05.2009, 01:09

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

manna, and you are the author's repetition is not an option number 3?

If you are considering this option, then I will discuss. I'm aware that this is not a masterpiece (this is the right picture I think the shadow of bottles and barrels can be so only if the sun in the sky 2? Or does it?) In any case, all - thank you.

Евгений · 14.05.2009, 06:29

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I'm aware that this is not a masterpiece

I agree with you.
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The artist painted using the plot of the right kartiny.Tak work all the artists, what is the problem? never ponyal.Poddelka or not? This question has to Leonid Shishkin, Provenance, as always no.

dedulya37 · 14.05.2009, 07:28

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you can wait dedulya37 - can he find out what happens (Zatulovskaya RS and Zatulovskaya II - circle Maslovka)

I'll try to call Raisa S. and Irene, but whether they have internet?
In words, it is difficult to explain.

Amateur · 14.05.2009, 10:11

On the left picture of some irritatingly-flashy colors. Red radish in the upper right corner of the "running out" of the composition. Not very similar to the author's repeated, for the right picture of harmonious colors, and it acts as a calming. Two of the sun? It is not obvious. For clover, even Rubens had similar effects. "Art is not of course subject to natural necessity, but has its own laws," he said on this subject IV von Goethe.

Glasha · 14.05.2009, 11:02

I also like the still life, and raznolezhaschie shadows completely prevent - the game, collecting the composition,
on the left side of the can not say anything, because, unfortunately, almost never seen pictures Raisa Zatulovskaya, but that very much work of her daughter Irene,
but the question is manna asked a good

dedulya37 · 14.05.2009, 11:41

Amateur,
On the left picture of some irritatingly-flashy colors. Red radish in the upper right corner of the "running out" of the composition. Not very similar to the author's repeated, for the right picture of harmonious color

All right.
On the question how to consider this work - Etude whether or otherwise, Raisa S. laughingly replied: "Call it an author's version.
Hence the work of "correct".
More should be remembered, and this is a Shishkin said that the rendition of the photo may differ from the original. In any case, is always recommended to see the work of "live".

Кирилл Сызранский · 14.05.2009, 11:44

dedulya37, so expertise! Do not Tretyakov, do not Grabar ...
Here are just a couple of days-on Plastova answered now on Zatulovskaya! Class!
Thank you!

13.05.2009, 22:05	Язык оригинала: Русский #1
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