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[Алник1302]

Artwork by unknown artist, no signature.
Oil on canvas, presumably the end of 19 century.
Perhaps vyezena from Europe after the war.

[sergejnowo]

assume that Hungary /Czechoslovakia.
Price in Europe 30-100 euros.

[Алник1302]

Is the end of the 19 th century painting can cost 100 euros?

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Сообщение от Alnik1302

Does the picture late 19 th century may cost 100 euros?

This yes .....

[Алник1302]

And on Vassilkovsky not like?

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Maybe vyezena from Europe after the war.

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Does the picture late 19 th century may cost 100 euros?

Alnik1302, imagine how the Russian soldiers, not so consolidated in art, chose as a trophy of some kind now, hanging out in the burgher house.
Moreover, such wealth that the Germans could not get anything worthwhile, and a Russian soldier, chose from the "gallery" master that even reminded him of his native landscape derevnyu.Ili with washed-out roads.
Since most of these trophies was in Russia. Few things stand in terms of money, but great as a symbol of victory.
They hung in the communal, someone in the apartments and their long hovering involuntarily legendirovalo value of things.
  Time generally adds value. But, unfortunately, this is not your case.
But as truly valuable works from the defeated Germany, then taken out of their cars, marshals let the generals. Understand that and how do.
And our simple guys Botticelli paintings in the footcloths allowed - stydobischa What a "saying.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от heir

Imagine how the Russian soldiers, not so consolidated in art, chose as a trophy of some kind now, hanging out in a burgher's house.

You are mistaken, that's often taken out the soldiers from the post-war Germany:
Baldin collection - a collection of drawings and paintings by famous masters of European art XVI-XX centuries, has been taken from Germany in 1945.

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The collection from the collection of the Bremen Kunsthalle, was moved from Germany to Moscow, the Soviet Army Captain Viktor Baldin, in July 1945. Baldin, thereby saving the collection of fire and destruction of the soldiers, but moved the rescued masterpieces without proper legal clearance.
Handing in 1947 a collection of the State Museum of Architecture named Schuseva, Baldin for decades sought from the Government of the USSR and then Russia upon the return of paintings in Germany. The collection includes 362 Baldin drawing and two paintings, which are among the authors - Rembrandt, Durer, Boucher, Corot, Delacroix, Goya, Manet ..
value of this collection of dozens of mln.u.e.
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Or another example (old article)
Dispute over the paintings of Rubens 'Tarquin and Lucretia' might overshadow the meeting Gerhard Schroeder and Vladimir Putin.

Yesterday, Minister of Culture Christina Weiss, Germany (Christina Weiss) stated that at a meeting with his counterpart Alexander Sokolov, Russia will raise the question regarding non-payment of the picture. The dispute threatens to greatly overshadow the meeting, Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder with Russia's President Vladimir Putin, one of the closest allies Schroeder, who was to arrive last night in Hamburg.

Peter Paul Rubens wrote 'Tarquinius and Lucretia "in 1609-1612, respectively. On the canvas depicted mythological scenes of rape of Lucretia, faithful wife of a Roman. "Tarquin and Lucretia '- one of the best early works of the Flemish masters.

- The absence of this pattern creates the largest gap in the collections of the Berlin Stock and garden art museum, and we would like to bring it back - said yesterday the representative of the Ministry of Culture, Germany - an issue we will raise during the bilateral talks.

Germany side is trying to return the picture by Rubens of the day last year a group of businessmen invited her to sell. In 1945, the painting disappeared from a castle near Berlin.

Russia businessman Vladimir Logvinenko, claims that he 'owns' the picture, insisting that he had legally purchased it from Russia antiques dealer in 1999. Two months ago, a court in Germany ruled that the German government has not provided sufficient evidence that the painting was indeed stolen. But yesterday, Christina Weiss expressed its intention to file a private lawsuit in Russia's court.

- When buying Mr Logvinenko painting was folded and heavily corrupted, the same was sold without a frame. We believe that buying now, he knew it was illegal - said the representative of the Minister of Culture in Germany.
It is believed that in April 1945 when the Red Army went to Nazi Germany, the picture went to some Russian officer - is likely to capture the mansion on the outskirts of Berlin that belonged to Joseph Goebbels (Joseph Goebbels), where 'Tarquin and Lucretia' hung over bed of one of the many mistresses of the Nazi propaganda chief.
Painting with a huge and well-documented history (originally for his collection it was bought by Frederick the Great in 1765, and last saw the painting in 1942 in one of the galleries in Potsdam) disappeared and, apparently, has remained in the family of the officer while his daughter had not sold it for a few hundred dollars.
As art historians believe, despite the deplorable state of the canvas can cost about 80 million euros (55 million pounds).
This year has already held the decision of Russia's General Prosecutor's Office, which said that Logvinenko is a bona fide purchaser of the picture and its acquisition does not violate a single law of Russia.

Works of art stolen by Soviet troops in Germany, remain in Russia is very controversial point. Many Russian they seem sort of compensation for the devastating invasion of Hitler's troops. Since 1991, Germany is trying to negotiate with Russia on the restitution of approximately 200 thousand works of art. For its part, Russia also makes claims regarding the return of icons and other art objects stolen by German troops in the initial period of war.

Sam Logvinenko anything to anyone is not going to give.

- I do not want to talk about anything with the Germans - he said this in an interview with Russia's daily Izvestia, - at least until then before me did not apologize.

[uriart]

I have once wrote a vision of the situation (refund), named after Pushkin Pushkin Museum director Irina Antonova:
"We owe nothing!" We should. We do not! "
It is time for all the guardians of the return of artworks to the Germans to calm down and not to raise around this topic a lot of noise.
This is only our LD Kuchma, former President of Ukraine took and gave the Germans archive Baja IS.
And for any such services to them it was returned?
For millions of ruined lives?
Hundreds of thousands of stolen works of art?
Over the burning and destruction of villages and towns?
In my opinion so let everything stays where it is currently located.
Let all the trophies are returned to the cultural revolution.
Even if all this is exposed for all to see and not hidden by depository.

I would understand if the step Kuchma has been exchanged for stolen by the Germans from the Ukraine or Russia.
And so unilaterally?

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Сообщение от Eugene

Here you are mistaken, that's often taken out of the post-war Germany:

Eugene, I did not list what was in the cars. I talked about what kind of quality linens were soldiers knapsacks. Alnik1302 I had to explain why it is not a thing of little value in terms of value. This was also the goal of his treatment at this forum.

[sergejnowo]

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Does the picture late 19 th century may cost 100 euros?

http://stores.shop.ebay.de/bolgersen...Q_sopZ2QQ_scZ1
a reference to a curator, with a branch on Ebay. He sells with the "Buy Now". The late 19-20 century, specialization - Scandinavia