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Старый 16.11.2012, 12:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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The original of the famous paintings of Rubens' Penitent Magdalene Marina and sister Martha "found in the vaults of Irbit State Museum of Fine Arts.

    Small Art Museum provincial provincial town Irbit today the main newsmaker in the world of art. In its original vaults found the famous Rubens' Penitent Magdalene Marina sister Martha. " Before this picture was considered a copy. After much doubt and checks work officially presented to the public.

    History of acquiring this painting "The Penitent Mary Magdalene with her sister Martha" also appears as a kind of penance. Almost four decades painting kept in the vaults of the museum Irbitskogo. Here it was transferred from the Hermitage as a copy of the eponymous painting from the collection of the Museum of Vienna, reports NTV correspondent Ina Osipova.

    Victoria Derevnina, Irbit State Museum of Fine Arts, "Valery A. We walked and how many times passes by," No, - he says - not a copy. This is the original. That is still the original. '"

    The Hermitage "Penitent Magdalene" was brought after the nationalization. Why experts then recorded it in reproduction, we can only guess. Perhaps by mistake, maybe they tried to save the original Rubens. As is known, the Soviet authorities at the time actively selling masterpieces abroad. Be that as it may, the true value of paintings opened only now, when she was sent for restoration.

    Antonina Nasedkina, art restorer, "She had a gold dress, yellow. Varnish darkened, pokorichnevel, concealed author flavor. When we removed the varnish, the dress she was silver and cold. Quite a different flavor opened. Opened some nuances, subtleties. "

    Under a layer of dirt and age old yellowed varnish was not even seen tears Magdalene. Museum director barely looked into those eyes on the contrary, as understood at once: Rubens something real.

    Valery Karpov, director Irbit State Museum of Fine Arts: "Nobody wrote his eyes as he said it. And when I saw this glazik opened, so I was here, they say, began to shake. And it was the first time we've put into the global scientific revolution completely new unknown work of the great master. "

    The fact that the picture was painted in the studio of Rubens and his personal participation, and experts do not doubt the Hermitage. Chemical analysis proved that the canvas four centuries, the composition of colors is the same as that used in the studio of the great Flemish painter. But even with the external examination it is clear that masterpiece created by a single artist. However, like many works of Rubens.

    Viktor Korobov, head of painting restoration of the Hermitage: "Here I can see at first glance, even the hands of Jordaens and Van Dyck. That number of paintings ascribed to Rubens, it is physically impossible for one person to write, that is known for certain that the work shop. A Rubens just putting the finishing touches, that is, to the works of the breath of his brush, thereby enhancing the status of finished things. "

    What kind of "Magdalene" then stored in the Vienna Museum, now probably be studied Austrian experts. Russian critics suggest caution: Rubens could write a few variations on the same theme. But what Irbit "Magdalene" can not be a copy of the Vienna picture, is beyond doubt.

    Cloths for looking like have noticeable differences. Looking at IRBIT and Viennese "Magdalene", you can even play the game "find some differences." For example, the box on the floor of a completely different color, form, and content. But the main thing - the very character appears in different images: the Viennese "Magdalene" much curlier hair and a fuller face and Irbit "Magdalene", as in a museum, is more sensual and sophisticated.

   Ural "Magdalene" will continue to explore and restore. This discovery is a world-class, say critics. Hermitage guide promised not to take a picture back, now that the great canvas reborn here, in a small museum of Ural country town.

Read more: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/367722/#ixzz2CNS0D86z



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Старый 16.11.2012, 14:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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moody, thanks for the news!
Honestly, it is not hard to believe ...
Maybe she sent there to make it easy to steal it?
Or laundering paintings > But still, it's great to have found the original



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Старый 16.11.2012, 20:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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The director of the museum barely looked into those eyes on the contrary, as understood at once : Rubens something real .
I must have associative thinking ... Somehow remembered the famous collector of old masters , was interviewed on TV ( for absolute accuracy can not answer ):

"I always knew that Leningrad was a city not frightened idiots. Now , going one day in one small, godforsaken shop and glanced at the corner where there was this lonely thing , I immediately realized that IT ! And today you can contemplate in front of Russia's only private person - the owner of a genuine Rembrandt. "



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Старый 16.11.2012, 21:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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I must have associative thinking ... Somehow remembered the famous collector of old masters , was interviewed on TV ( for absolute accuracy can not answer ):

"I always knew that Leningrad was a city not frightened idiots. Now , going one day in one small, godforsaken shop and glanced at the corner where there was this lonely thing , I immediately realized that IT ! And today you can contemplate in front of Russia's only private person - the owner of a genuine Rembrandt . "
What Schuster found Sofronova portrait painted ? The same eyes ( they think ), and also - IT! Although he initially thought it Yakulov, then Micah. Sokolov and then to the signature on the back of the "Calculate" Sofronov . Portrait of a chic, 20's , Eastern gentleman with a cigarette. But it soon , most importantly, getting through ! All of these "experiences" of Gogol's " The Portrait " go straight )) Irbitskogo Director of the museum, by the way, better than crying rubensovoy Magdalene, and I understand it ))



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And I bought Ian Molenar on all known online auction ...
Yes, however, not only in him ....
>



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I always thought that the only insurance to authenticate things related to the "old masters ," is a clear traceability its way from inception through all known owners and their collection to this day . And if, say , there was this as Rubens Rubens purchased by order of Catherine in the 18th century, this is a little more ...
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And I bought Ian Molenar on all known online auction ... Yes, however, not only in him ....
Friday night ... > ( friendly joke!)



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Старый 17.11.2012, 00:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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I always thought that the only insurance to the authenticity of things related to the "old masters ", it is clear traceability its way from inception through all known owners and their collection to this day .
Personally, I never did not believe and do not believe ... Warranty - intuition and artistic flair, along with other tangible confirmation ... And for any thing can build a bearded provenance , and in fact would be an empty shell ...



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It is doubtful that in Irbit - autograph Rubens painting.

A workshop at best.

In the best.

If judged by the photos that are available.



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headword message is somewhat like the anecdote about Brezhnev and Mikhail Vrubel painting "Three Sisters."

Who is depicted in the picture?
Who is the "Marina Magdalene"?

We are talking about Mary Magdalene?
Ie
comes from Magdala.
Or the sisters of Lazarus the Four Mary and Martha?



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Сообщение от khmelev; 2344571"
headword message is somewhat like the anecdote about Brezhnev and Mikhail Vrubel painting "Three Sisters."
Who is depicted in the picture? Who is the "Marina Magdalene "?
We are talking about Mary Magdalene ? Ie comes from Magdala . Or the sisters of Lazarus the Four Mary and Martha ?
I looked.
In the Catholic tradition ascribed relationship with Martha.

But this is pure speculation , is unlikely to have a grounded.




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