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Old 21-11-2012, 14:05 Original language: Russian        #1
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I read the sign as S.
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Hi. Help information about the author. I read the sign as S. Coldini.
Mysterious composition. > Copies are very common , are given for the most part , the work F.A.Rubo naturally >. (Although once seen with a fake signature Kovalevsky. But a forger - the total lack of basic knowledge). Who is really the author of the original - I do not know . Kossak - not Kossak, Roubaud - not Roubaud, Samokish - not Samokish . That's one of the plays on the original pre-revolutionary postcard . The author is not specified, the name - " The Circassians in the Caucasus ." If anyone would deign to share information - I too would be very grateful . (I have a picture signed " Kossak . Circassians ," but that - conditional. To not get lost ).
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Curious composition. > Copies are very common , are given for the most part , the work F.A.Rubo naturally >. (Although once seen with a fake signature Kovalevsky. But a forger - the total lack of basic knowledge). Who is really the author of the original - I do not know . Kossak - not Kossak, Roubaud - not Roubaud, Samokish - not Samokish . That's one of the plays on the original pre-revolutionary postcard . The author is not specified, the name - " The Circassians in the Caucasus ." If anyone would deign to share information - I too would be very grateful . (I have a picture signed " Kossak . Circassians ," but that - conditional. To not get lost ).
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Oh, Amateur!
Hey uncap ...
Still picture of Default "written off" from the original, the image of which is represented by you ...
(As shown by the location of the left lower limb rider ... >) ...



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Oh, Amateur ! Hey uncap ...
Only logged users can - Only logged users can , I took off ! (And half chewed >. As the hero known film : Late , Rita , you are loved , thief!
Of course , the difference between my ( suspended) and your ( relatively) pictures - there. And not one. ( On your , for example , the second rider realized that Burnashev bridge burned, and back , nothing for pains . And on my - not yet understood).
 And yet - it is unlikely that Verush - Kowalski and , for example, Kossack > wrote in one time so close in composition pictures. Rather, we can talk about the author's version ... ( I should not , perhaps, felt hat chewed ?)



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... I should not, perhaps, felt hat chewing?

I am painfully aware that I may be the indirect cause of food poisoning felt hat of one of the best specialists in the Forum ...
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At the end of the 19th . Early 20th. Caucasus in vogue include paintings of " mountaineers" (particularly among retired military). This and legs grow " custom" work.
Interested me this question in connection with the appearance of Bagdosarova (see number 1). Work done on zakaz.dazhe learned by whom and when. Verush Kowalski and V is taken from an Internet (see number 2 and 3) The basis of most images GG Gagarin.
One question until the end and did not find out for sure sebya.togda was made to sign his name kopii.po reasons? this is not considered a violation of copyright?
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Old 22-11-2012, 09:09 Original language: Russian        #10
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I am painfully aware that I may be the indirect cause of food poisoning felt hat of one of the best specialists in the Forum ...
Us-tin, do not blame yourself ! Do not pick IOHE heart! We remember, in lean years , then shag ohotku kurivali , sleeps in a rusty herring soaked tea , sweets " Truffle" of oatmeal and baby food personally sculpted ! We will not get with felt !!! <! - ~ 1 ~ -> >
( And your kind words hidden in the secret corners of my heart. Their tents there to keep and cherish ...)

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At the end of the 19th. Early 20th. Caucasus in vogue include paintings of "mountain people" (especially among retired military). This and legs grow "custom" work.
Dear mihailovoh! Paintings of mountain people "in vogue" as you delicately put it, 60 years before ...
Exactly since that time, both in the Caucasus became massive work of professional artists. The suite Viceroy of the Caucasus Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevich, for example. >
In the 1850's - 1870's in Tiflis T.Gorshelt worked very fruitfully, Lagorio, Filippov, Baikov etc.
And before that, in connection with the events taking place in the Caucasus (yeah, well, they fucking it all happen, so come!) - F. and P. Franken, Lermontov, Vol. G.G.Gagarin, Polydor Babaev, Stepan Shukaev and protchaya and protchaya and protchaya.
It was from there - "Wicked Chechen crawls ashore, sharpening his knife," "Not for me, come spring, not for me Don spill", "How the Wild Terek, the high bank, threw Tatars (" Tatars "- adopted in XIX century name for a number of Turkic peoples of the Caucasus)) forty thousand horses "," Hazbulatov removed, your poor hut "> > > and much, much more.
 Since I would be riding audacity to even try to tell in 10 rows of colossal track that left the Russian culture experience Caucasian wars.
So - "these pictures" as 160 years ago, "in vogue" because of the NL and did not go. Their very much. What could be more masculine and more beautiful: a horseman, a thin-voiced, under it - the spinning ears dashing argamak, hat, Chekmenev, cartridge belts, hood, and in general - "the snowy peaks of sleep in the darkness of the night" ... (In particular - if you look at the whole brutal beauty in your pajamas with a cup of coffee, and a very remote distance ...)
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