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Old 01-02-2009, 00:08 Original language: Russian        #1
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The conflict over the arts. Germany wants to return 87 paintings, which are now on display in the Simferopol Art Museum. After the war, a collection of paintings taken from the museum in Aachen as compensation for destroyed German works of art that belonged to Simferopol museum. The scandal erupted a few months ago - a couple from Bavaria photographed pictures and reported them to the museum in Aachen. In the conflict were dealt with by our correspondents in Germany and the Crimea. http://podrobnosti.ua/podrobnosti/20...19/567297.html
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Artem, you can adjust your ссылочку "conflict continues":

http://rus.newsru.ua/rest/30dec2008/nedamo.html
I wonder why Simferopol museum did not take care about the pictures during the war? "What a pity such a loss!
Interestingly, from German collections in the museum is Kuindzhi!
Nothing I did not return them!



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Artem, you can adjust your ссылочку "conflict continues":

http://rus.newsru.ua/rest/30dec2008/nedamo.html
I wonder why Simferopol museum did not take care about the pictures during the war? "What a pity such a loss!
Interestingly, from German collections in the museum is Kuindzhi!
Nothing I did not return them!

Sorry, but I can not resist Kuindzhi! - No, it's not from a German collection - this is speculation journalists. Some sort through the efforts of the add-Simferopol museum is empty.
And the events as I know fairly, evolving favorably and no pictures not return calls, but on the contrary, Germany offers help in the restoration.
publication in Germany, which is called "first hand" I beg your pardon, that without the translation, but with an online translator can read and a person does not understand German.
http://www.2000.net.ua/print?a=/paper/60467 and is a decent answer, in my opinion.



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Sorry, but I can not help Kuindzhi! - No, it's not from a German collection - this is speculation journalists. Some sort through the efforts of the add-Simferopol museum is empty.
And the events as I know fairly, evolving favorably and no pictures not return calls, but on the contrary, Germany offers help in the restoration.
     Almost all the paintings were restored. Kuindzhi does not belong to Germany. All the pictures I've seen a few years ago in the museum's storerooms. The main thing - a lot of French painting of the late 19 th century. That is why the Germans, under any preglogom, want to get the picture.



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Artem, of course want to get!
Nothing they do not give!
Looted and burned our lands still want something to get one!
And who would return us to the lost? Germans?
So they say on that on this occasion, that say something that is stolen in private hands and we can not force people to return this.
And you have, then we have, in museums. And we have to give everything they say.
Well, not arrogance?



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Old 01-02-2009, 18:52 Original language: Russian        #6
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Almost all the paintings were restored. Kuindzhi does not belong to Germany. All the pictures I've seen a few years ago in the museum's storerooms.
Indeed, the paintings were restored even in Germany, and some in Ukraine 30 years ago ...., this is just in a German paper it is written (see above) The exhibition displayed more than a year, and Sevastopol from Simferopol only some 100 km. You can see with the naked eye in need of restoration. So it was not necessary and walk to the store

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The main thing - a lot of French painting of the late 19 th century
And about the "main" see themselves, what's more - this site Aachen Museum of the lost collection "Phantom Gallery"
http://www.schattengalerie.info/index_eng.html
If you have any questions on this topic - write, answer in detail.



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Marjana! And here 100 km. and German museums. I saw all the pictures 10 years ago. And the fact that's been now - this is only part of the collections. On the French art and will now hardly speak, on the reverse side of the canvases were prikleyany paper "committee" and restored them in the Hermitage. I helped them unpack, personally, with Leonardo Mikhailovna (now deceased) the guardian of the funds at that hour, she told me, and who produced restoration. Where are these pictures only God knows. Maybe there is, I think today this topic is closed.
   And at the Simferopol, a gallery, "Crimea-Sothis" knew for 60 years in October, the first thin. gallery in the Crimea?



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on the reverse side of the paintings were prikleyany paper "committee" and restored them in the Hermitage. I helped them unpack, personally, with Leonardo Mikhailovna (now deceased) the guardian of the funds at that hour, she told me, and who produced restoration. Where are these pictures only God knows.
Sorry please, Artem, if you are hurt,: shy:, even though you are my friend, but truth is more expensive!
In the museum as you know, being strict accounting and 2 years ago was fully funds verification and documentation. And how would not like anyone was talking about the fact that something is "known to God" - sorry it's not true, in the museum of their funds know everything.
On display all pictures of "German collections, with the exception of" Venus in the blacksmith Vulcan, which is being renovated. And on the reverse side of many of them the stamp of Kiev restoration center.
During those 10 years until you came to the museum of Simferopol where much has changed. The exhibition is now much more interesting, and the exhibitions change frequently.
But maybe I should not try to shed some light, then the issue becomes not "fried"
And about the gallery "Crimea-Sothis" never heard of. Who is there exhibited, with some artists gallery work?



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Marjana, lad. Gives boyish, in an uncompromising and naivete. Well, why argue, because you can know a maximum of Light Glazunov (a real keeper of funds), it was still a schoolgirl. Course all changed with the times! And all that I wrote above, it is true.
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Judging by the fact that you got to the tone of "silent Malyavka" tangible evidence of innocence you do not. Who is the Light Glazunov, I do not know.

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