From France with antiques

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In practice, it turns out that the import into Russia of art from France is not so difficult. The main thing - remember the two magic numbers: 50 years and € 150 thousand

It is believed that at the Paris auction to buy Russian art can be much cheaper than in London, where at Christie's or Sotheby's must pay extra for the brand. But to buy the work in France, you must be a real expert - auctions are held across the country, and "catch" a masterpiece is not so simple. However, since there are auctions, so there are happy customers who may want to take their acquisition in Moscow houses and galleries. In auctions, there is a French antique dealers, and the interests of Russian buyers no longer confined to Russian art.

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take out a piece of art in France outside the EU is quite simple. According to the official rules of French customs without special permits can take pictures no older than 50 years, costing no more than € 150 thousand, and watercolors, gouaches, pastels - no more than € 30 thousand, depending on the age and rates for export may require a special permit -- "license for permanent export" from the Ministry of Culture of France. Details of the age and price restrictions, for reading in French, there is a table on the website of the French Customs. This table explains a lot - for example, why suddenly finding fault with the customs, though, except for my grandmother's personal archive, you do not luck. It turns out that any file cost from € 300 requires a license for export.

Fortunately, in this Code is easing. For the French the decisive role played by all the same value, but not age, but because if you pick, for example, a picture of the 1920's, the price does not exceed € 150 thousand, you do not need a special permit. It will take only a document proving the price of the product. Finally, if the product is worth more than € 5 thousand, customs with you take a fee of 5%of the value of a valuable commodity.

Much depends on whether you purchase something at an auction in the gallery or a private individual, because the auction house and gallery can take on virtually all paperwork. A private entrepreneur, perhaps, on the contrary, unwilling or unable to provide official documents. And without them, you not only can not take anything, but can not draw the proverbial check tax free, which is applicable and the art.

If you bought the work from a private individual, an assessment can be made by Commissioner-appraiser, alias commissaire-priseur. The title of the post may be the definition of judiciaire, it means that he deals not only commercial but also the legal assessment. In the case of claims commissioner, appraiser legally responsible for them to put on the document and assess the author's name for 30 years. You can turn to an insurance agent, although it can turn against you, because these experts tend to overestimate the work.

The most difficult procedure is facing you when the subject and the time of its creation, and value does not fit within the limits set by the Customs. For example, to remove the product of the XVIII century, whose value is equal to or greater than € 150 thousand, will have to write a letter to the Ministry of Culture. Most likely, the decision will be in your favor, because the French are rather welcome the spread of its culture abroad (including, of course, if you do not try to remove items of national heritage, for example, only in France, personal service of Louis XVI). By the way, if the purchase was made at the auction, the auction house he can not obtain a license for export.
Source http://www.openspace.ru/art_times/co.../details/1983/

[uriart]

Went shopping in Paris and not once.
Customs officers, as elsewhere, tupyat, pulling the cat's tail has put his stamp on the export declaration. No 5%I did not pay. Probably because they bought at the auction and show through an auction. My purchases were limited to a sum of 100,000 euros. I feel disgusted and boring, customs and looking at your account and then extract the required picture. Thus, any of them permanently somewhere calls and finds out something about my things. And the last time, this procedure took me almost an hour of time that was nearly missed the plane. Vobschem unpleasant memories.
Such was the case in Sweden and in Finland and in Germany, practically the whole of Europe.

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went shopping in Paris and not once.
Customs officers, as elsewhere, tupyat, pulling the cat's tail has put his stamp on the export declaration. No 5%I did not pay. Probably because they bought at the auction and show through an auction. My purchases were limited to a sum of 100,000 euros. I feel disgusted and boring, customs and looking at your account and then extract the required picture. Thus, any of them permanently somewhere calls and finds out something about my things. And the last time, this procedure took me almost an hour of time that was nearly missed the plane. Vobschem unpleasant memories.
Such was the case in Sweden and in Finland and in Germany, practically the whole of Europe

A similar experience when exporting from the UK at someone?
The first time I ask the courier to bring the work, and he has concerns that the "arrest". Regular gallery in selling prepare documentation for the export?
Please tell someone!

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This was the case in Sweden and in Finland and in Germany, practically the whole of Europe.

I do not even know how customs officers look? Where do you find them? At CDG?

[fross]

And how you make out at import, so that later if necessary to remove? Or is it impossible in principle - all to let anyone not to let "?

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fross, to whom the question?

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fross, to whom the question?

Everyone who has the experience and desire to share them. Or, I asked the wrong question?

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Sorry, I've always asked, and "left."
That I'm taking. From London to Moscow. How to import know.
As they have there - I do not know. Work bought by the gallery (not at auction).
Old, dear. There may be issues when exporting to me there, they?

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And how you make out at import, so that later if necessary to remove? Or is it impossible in principle - all to let anyone not to let "?

No, I just need to bring to Moscow. 's All.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I do not even know how customs officers look? Where do you find them? At CDG?

And what, sorry - CDG?

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What's that, sorry - CDG?

Yes it is about Paris, I asked him about Charles de Gaulle Airport ...

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There may be issues when exporting to me there, they?

That's interesting for me. Who "they" might be interested? I passed the baggage surcharge, as usual, the overload on hand, bulky took on a trolley in a special gate ...
With hand luggage came in to land ...
Who, what and when to show? Can I somehow missed somewhere? The most interesting?

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And how you make out when importing

And this is as usual: declaration, two pictures of each "cultural values", etc.
In accordance with the customs legislation. : p

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Cyril Syzransky,
Well, that's what I think.
But! They have (in the UK) has its own laws on trafficking in cultural property? What are they? Does anyone know? Suddenly I have some documents to prepare, any declaration to issue and pay the fee?