Program grazhdanizatsii

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The program grazhdanizatsii

The Human Rights Council under the Russian president is now focusing on the great things, developing a comprehensive program of de-Stalinization. Although the final name of the program is not entirely clear. It is also proposed "desovietization", "Decommunization", "detotalirizatsiya" as well and grazhdanizatsiya. It is understood that through the "purification of consciousness" citizens become citizens, the population in the nation and based on this grazhdanizatsii going strong upgrade. And also, probably, innovation.
Such fluctuations may be due to the fact that objections will likely grazhdanizatsiey world outlook and theoretical - how appropriate such a directness to proclaim a program educating the new man does not look like there is something just from the era of Stalinization and fail if this is strange? There is more a matter of faith - the Bolsheviks, it was strong, with members of the council as strong and today - the others nourish skepticism towards the idea of ​​a new person who is totally consumed a totalitarian Adam. But the religious debate can be engaged at least until the end of the world, and all remain in their convictions.
Destalinization - is a different matter, because it allows to specify quite practical questions. The first of which is obvious. Since the death of Stalin took 58 years from the date razvenchatelnogo XX Congress - 55, since the lifting of any restrictive taboos against Lenin and Stalin - 20, after the fall of the Soviet Union - also 20. Since then, things have changed: people, daily life, customs, material culture, political and economic system. While the urgent need to de-Stalinization, conducted at the highest level, meaning that Stalin was still alive all living things. But if he is alive in spite of a complete change in the whole structure of life, it means that he was and is the greatest genius in human history, because without a supernatural genius can not have as high survivability. Here the most ardent Stalinists against members of the Presidential Council look skeptics and skeptics, on which Art. 58-10 crying.
Links also destalinizatorov that genre on Stalin was a wise, native and beloved "gained increasing popularity, and therefore need a counter state program" On Stalin's infamous, ferocious, terrible "(despite the fact that, in the opinion of this writer, the secretary general is richly possess these qualities) - these references are fighting the argument that the wise Stalin reborn is not the first time.
In the late 70's in the same way was to attack the Stalinist legend. a sign of the time were the portraits of Generalissimo of the windshield trucks. Ruling Politburo it could not possibly be pleased, because the portrait was frank figs on glass. Drivers of vehicles with a portrait, of course, does not wish to apply to them the Stalinist law of 7 August 1932 under which they left behind marketed treasury for gasoline and kalymnye transport they could get up to the highest measure. The fact that a free-thinking and application of portraits can be obtained from 58-10 down to capital punishment, they are also without the slightest thought. Think they that no order, the owner of either, in stores or shisha, feed Cobra around the world, and this fool on trinket hangs himself. Dissenters 45-year-old. And the Central Committee, and the KGB perfectly understood the true meaning of the portrait of Comrade Stalin, but simultaneously understood yet and something that does not touch me - do not stink. To get involved in the fight against this kind of Fronde without eliminating the causes, it gave rise (and how to abolish?), Would only excited passions. And this old man in the Politburo did not want to completely.
Perhaps someone out there especially the cultural and even knew his comrades said that the people's utopian fig historic character - it was, is and will be. Though Lenin as a FICO score under Stalin, though Napoleon's legend at the Bourbons, though the image of a formidable king in Russian historical songs. What is now offering a fig deploy a titanic struggle, there is evidence of a fair amount of degradation over time T. M. Suslov.
Although if we talk about specific methods of struggle, here a different picture: all that was foolish and ugly at that Suslov, it is proposed to deepen and form. The proposal to introduce Berufsverbot according to the "public statements containing the denial or justification of the crimes of the totalitarian regime" compels ask which of the current civil servants of any rank to publicly deny or justify collectivization, the Great Terror, persecution of the faith. Either this is a blow to the emptiness, or prosecution of an application for an indefinite basis, when the denial, and justification as well as understood in the broad sense. Known and tested method of education of the new man.
The task of the general - in each district center - a monumental propaganda utanovkoy steles, monuments, etc. the victims of totalitarianism accurately reproduces unfolded in the late Brezhnev era program of military-patriotic education of the installation Stell etc. memory of the heroes of World War II, holding watches, lessons of courage etc. In carrying out the tasks of mass coverage and quality have been appropriately get what happened. Nothing, except perhaps in those years of extreme cynicism about the war, veterans and the fallen. Cynicism, but now partly cleared up grass-roots people's feelings.
Of course, a way of taming it possible to educate organchik, correctly pronouncing the prescribed mantra. We see these organchiki. We have, and even more (here we are behind) - the blissful West. Obviously, it is assumed that the wounds of hard times in the XX. When Lenin, Stalin made a new man, we have now overcome the mass production of a new model of human design prof. Fedotov. Vykorchuem traces of communism, the strenuous efforts the work of the Council for the communist education of workers under the Russian President.

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Toast Stalin May 24, 1945 in St. George's Hall in the Kremlin at a reception in honor of the commanders of the Red Army.

"Comrades, let me raise one final toast.
 I would like to raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people, and above all the Russian people.
 I drink primarily for the health of the Russian people because it is the most outstanding nation of all nations of the Soviet Union.
I propose a toast to the health of the Russian people because he has earned in this war are generally accepted as the guiding force of the Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country.
 I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people, not only because he - the leading people, but also because it has a clear mind, a staunch character and patience.
 Our government made many mistakes, had his moments of despair in 1941-1942, when our army was retreating, leaving our home towns and villages of Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Leningrad Region, the Baltic, the Lithuanian Republic of Finland, was leaving because there was no other choice. Some people could tell the government: you have not lived up to our expectations, go away, we put another government that makes peace with Germany and will provide us with peace of mind. But the Russian people did not do that, because he believed in the correctness of the policy of his government, and went to the victim, to ensure the defeat of Germany. And this trust of the Russian people the Soviet government was the decisive force that secured the historic victory over the enemy of mankind - fascism.
 Thanks to him, the Russian people, for the confidence!
 The health of the Russian people! "


 And I think that there would be no collapse of the Soviet Union and all of this pandemonium, if not died such a terrible number of Russian people in the war, because there is still the best golovy.A where they could still be at that time? But in order to overcome fascism apparently had to pay exactly the price for it ...

[Ika-Ika]

Trap

Support is another de-Stalinization of Russian society?


President, International Public Foundation Experimental Creative Center "
 
Sergei Kurginian

May 4, 2011
 



Desovietization NON-STOP

July 3, 2009 in Vilnius on 18 th Annual Session of OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. At that session, the OSCE adopted a resolution titled "Reuniting a divided Europe."
 
The resolution unequivocally equalized Nazism and Sovietism (Stalinism, communism).

She stated that the Soviet Union - Criminal State carrying out genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity.
 
It is strongly recommended to stop the "embellishment past" and its "glorification", including "the holding of public demonstrations in commemoration of the Nazi or Stalinist past."
 
In 2009, Russia refused to support the resolution, the OSCE, that is not trapped. The resolution was then condemned and the Foreign Ministry and the Duma, and the patriarch.
 
A little less than two years.

February 1, 2011 in Ekaterinburg the meeting of the Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights. At the meeting in the presence of Russian President with a detailed and far-reaching statement on desovietization, member of the Presidential Council Karaganov.
 
A number of them made - explicitly Vilnius-OBSEshnyh - ideas entered the program proposed by the Council. This means that Russia, avoiding the trap-2009, wants to become trapped in 2011, built entirely on a similar scheme. Evidence?
 
In March 2011 the site appeared on the Kremlin edited the official transcript of the meeting, which caused violent reactions in many countries around the world.
 
Immediately in Lithuania (and this is one of the initiators of the resolution OSCE), applauding transcript, said: "Russia has recognized the responsibility for the genocide and the Second World War!"
 
And then (taking off his hat, to admire the Western ability to match words and deeds) by the mouth of the famous Lithuanian political analyst Ceslovas Ishkauskasa stated: "Not only missing one thing: as long as Moscow does not openly recognize the fact of occupation (and this would raise the question of reparations from the Soviet occupation), these programs will only be a lump of soft paper for local use. "
 
So on the one hand - jubilation ("the process went"), on the other hand - resentment (when the Russian will finish before the end of the process of its political suicide?).
 
But perhaps this is a tendentious reading of the Lithuanian constructive document, created by the Human Rights Council? Really!
 
Speaking in the presence of President Medvedev Karaganov (one of the members of the Presidential Council) stated bluntly: "The people and the elite after the last 100 years, a little of that respect." Meanwhile, back in 2009, President Medvedev, in his address to the Federal Assembly, argued that too much of what we have, we owe only the USSR and the Soviet Union. Again, it must be noted that two years ago, falling into the trap carefully avoided. And now ...
 
Karaganov, speaking before the Russian president, accusing people of committing a terrible sin of the revolution, people in the drive to power, anti-human barbaric regime and finally - think about it! - In samogenotside. Samogenotside!
 
Karaganov calls including crimes of the Soviet regime "Holodomor" - though the Kremlin has always fought for it to strike a similar floor of a respectable political lexicon.
 
That is Karaganov speaks Yushchenko, with whom the Kremlin has struggled. Thus, he puts in a difficult position today the Ukrainian leadership.
 
But perhaps all this only makes Karaganov? Not at all! The fact that states Karaganov, then enters the text of the program "to commemorate the memory of the victims of the totalitarian regime and of national reconciliation."
 
Anyone who reads the texts carefully and Karaganov points of the program "to commemorate the memory ..." easily be convinced that the real content of the program is exactly equating us (us, not the OSCE!) Communism to Nazism, and Stalin to Hitler, the Soviet Union to the Third Reich. Such assimilation is systemic. It concerns all the way up to the responsibility of the USSR during the second world war.
 
The essence of the discussion today at a high level of the program is as follows.

1. We must recognize that "the people of Russia after the last 100 years almost nothing for which self-respect."
 
2. Need to recognize the Soviet period of our history a great offense, and the Soviet Union - a criminal state.
 
3. We must recognize that "the whole of Russia - a big Katyn. In this case, refers to the view that the mass graves at Katyn - the work of the NKVD.
 
4. We must recognize that in the USSR carried out "genocide", that is, the Soviet government deliberately exterminating the Soviet people.
 
5. Need to recognize the Soviet Union "totalitarian state" and on this basis to consider him the same as Hitler's Germany.
 
6. It must be recognized that the USSR is responsible for the outbreak of World War II, along with Hitler's Germany.
 
7. Necessary to rewrite history books to reflect all that relates to the genocide in the Soviet era and the USSR as a criminal state.
 
8. Must be to prohibit civil servants to people who doubt that the Soviet Union was a criminal state.
 
9. Necessary to conduct an audit of anniversaries and holidays, in order to eliminate or rename all the dates associated with the history of the Soviet Union.
 
Legal and political implications of such "self-flagellation at the state level" would be disastrous. Analysis of all desovietization (de-Stalinization, detotalitarizatsy) held in the last two decades Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others, shows that regardless of anyone's intentions permanent desovietization marks the following.
 
First, not disdaining anything, created the myth of the ultimate demonic Soviet period.
 
Next up, either explicitly or veiled, the question of legal society, this "scoop", 70 years old who lived in evil and the terrible sin.
 
Then raises the issue of a guardian. After all, if society is not legal persons, it needs an external control.
 
Parallel demonized the entire history of Russia, because it is all riddled with imperial sin, gave birth to the sin of Stalinism.
 
Next, identify the roots of the imperial sin, what is the whole Russian cultural matrix, it is the core of culture, it is Russianness as such. Thus destalinization becomes de-Russification.
 
Parallel block demonized world of ideas related to Russia and is the last chance of humanity to non-catastrophic development in the XXI century. Outside of this block of ideas - or catastrophe or the termination of development.
 
Then, the formation of new global priorities. Equating communism with fascism and Stalin to Hitler, sooner or later because of the historical logic turns into the actual rehabilitation of Hitler and Nazism.
 
Finally, since the dismantling of meanings always turns dismembering the territory, even before the final completion of de-Russification (conducted by the principle: "destalinization - getting rid of imperial ambitions - getting rid of them gave birth Russianness") begins to disintegrate the country. This happened with the USSR as a result of a similar procedure. So inevitably happen with the Russian Federation.
 
And now, S. Belkovsky April 20, 2011 gives the interview in which he touts his recipe for de-Stalinization. According to this recipe, use which eventually will be all stubborn adherents of de-Stalinization, "the only way to de-Stalinization of Russia - is nationalism." Belkovsky recommends destalinizatoram deal with Stalin, as with the imperial ruler. And to fuel this purpose nationalism, saving with the help of Russia's imperial succession. Belkovsky destalinizatorov teaches, explains to them that destalinization possible only through the refusal of Russia "of succession in relation to empire, from its own imperial paradigm." And to ensure such a failure can only radical nationalism "a la Belkovsky and Co".
 
Belkovsky depicts the results of such a delightful de-Stalinization. He exults over the fact that this will inevitably lead destalinization ... But give the word itself destalinizatoru nationalists who believed that destalinization lead to a revision "of the results of the Second World War. Because with the discredit of Stalin reveals that the victory was not needed and the war was not needed. And maybe it was better to make peace with Hitler. Moreover, the victory of the nationalist paradigm somehow have to justify General Vlasov, because if Stalin is bad, the Vlasov - the default is good. On the other hand, have to admit (and such attempts have already been taken - grab a movie "Pop" and other things that now appear in the cultural sphere) that the occupied territories of Russian fared better than under the authority of the Bolsheviks. This means that the victory did not meet the interests of the Russian nation, and answered them the overthrow of Bolshevism that could be achieved in alliance with Hitler. "
 
The interviewer asks Belkovsky about when forget Stalin.

Belkovsky says: "When Russia turned from an empire into nation-state, like, say, the Czech Republic or Estonia."
 
That's it. Increasingly, there have been calls for secession of the Caucasus, Idel-Ural Cossacks, to the dismemberment of Russia, its derogation to the Czech Republic and Estonia - that's what destalinization, it also desovietization etc.
 
But is it?

Karaganov, erecting all that I described above, begins to engage the Russian question. At the XIX Assembly of his Council on Foreign and Defense Policy is a discussion on the topic: "The Russian cultural matrix: a brake on the development or support?" I wonder whether it is possible to conduct such a discussion, say, China, India? In China and India there are people who say that their cultural matrix - brake on development?
 
The logic is clear beginnings. Upgrading hinders all-Russian "- the entire Russian history, all Russianness as such. And "all" should be eradicated for the sake of modernization. Moreover, that "all" in the Soviet "terrible" period did not prevent the flight of Gagarin. A lack of "all that" into "great" post-Soviet period, does not interfere with the system retrogression, not causing, according to Dmitry Medvedev, a disaster only because there is a Soviet legacy (nuclear, energy, science and so on).
 
It would seem, take care of "all" as the apple of your eye, unless it is an obstacle to the disaster. But, on the other hand, "this is" an obstacle to some sort of upgrade! Besides that equating modernization to development (the concept is much more wide) - is a deliberate falsification, aimed at the dismantling of Russia.
 
And the fact that the same thing is also an obstacle to modernization, and an obstacle to the disaster, absolutely not stop fanatics "fix" our "wrong" country. "All this" should be suppressed as inhibit cancer tumor: "Die patient from a monstrous dose of radiation?" Well, what to do - trying to cure, but failed. We are not to blame - a tumor. "
 
Suppress "all" - snimesh obstacle to disaster? And let it be! Perhaps modernization achieved through catastrophe. And not realized, so sorry! Like the good - but too much has been resistance to it. Wanted to cure, but was too strong oncology.
 
In such a situation it is essential to understand exactly how desovietization refers to the sovereign - the people. He also society. He is also a barrier. He is "a cancer patient." He nepravosubektny "ohlos. He's electorate, his tudyt rastudyt ...
 
Because after all elections! Because after all democracy! Well, as an international trustee first push to the pressure on "ohlos" and then, when "ohlos" dernetsya, turn away? Yes, and "ohlos" support? In Egypt, after all, something similar happened?
 
All TV voting, including "Court time", which discussed under different masks is desovietization (Alexander Nevsky as a symbol of imperial Stalinism - agree nonweak) showed that desovetizatory lose crushingly. That they very rarely supports 25%of the voting, and more often supports 10%or even less.
 
That responded to this desovetizatory? They have discredited the very system of television polls. Like, God knows who votes, knows how. A need real, objective measurements, carried out by all the laws of random sampling and therefore representative.
 
After "the Court's time," I began to lead the Internet TV show "The essence of time." It attracted many people stunned me. People have created a virtual club "The essence of time." As part of this club and a half thousand people have expressed their desire to participate in the classic opinion poll on the issue desovietization.
 
In addition to the thousands of activists who want to conduct a poll in the club wanted to participate authoritative sociologists. They formed the questionnaire instructed activists. Informing the reader, to give the floor leader of the group of sociologists S. Krizhanskoy, reports the results of the survey, an unprecedented sample size, coverage areas and everything else.
 


S. KRIZHANSKAYA - ON THE ATTITUDE OF THE COMPANY TO desovietization

For studies of contemporary Russian society club, "The Essence of Time" has created a special unit - the Agency for Cultural and Social Research Society (abbreviated as "axioms"). The motto of the agency - "Know the community where you live!"
 
The first study, "Axiom" was devoted to measuring of the public reaction to the program desovietization proposed Human Rights Council. For this purpose, was created and transferred to the corresponding profile activists. Activists have been properly instructed and monitored. The number of activists who took part in the work - 1456.
 
The initiative nationwide survey was conducted by these activists, from 6 to 22 April 2011. Was interviewed 36,014 people in 1732 villages in 77 regions, territories and republics of Russia. Sampling "repaired" by mathematical methods and is representative of the Russian people over 16 years of age, sex and type of community (urban /rural).
 
As you know, the Human Rights Council under the President proposed to implement the country's so-called de-Stalinization program. President's Council believes that without this program in the country can not carry out modernization, and it is proposed to "modernize the consciousness" of the Russian people by now that most "de-Stalinization" and "desovietization.
 
As usual, ask the people if he wants to his mind in such a way to "modernize" forgotten (or maybe not planned). But, oddly enough, the Russian people have about this opinion. This view is (surprisingly unanimous) failed to fix due to the survey. According to a poll showed that if the people asked him whether he would conduct the program, the proposed Human Rights Council, he would - the people of Russia - answered "No" rather emphatically and definitely - see figure below.
 
Question number 2. If Russia decided to hold a national referendum and asked: "Do I still need Russia to implement the program, it involves the recognition of the Soviet Union's criminal state who executed the genocide of their own people and those responsible for unleashing the Second World War, how would you respond?
 



I would like to emphasize that this is not about television or Internet voting, and the huge, expanded sociological study carried out by all the rules.
 
Study showing that nearly 90%of the population of Russia (the Russian population, not the audience!) Believes that such programs do not need to.
 
And if the President did begin to implement it, despite the opinion of the people (and history knows such examples), then he just spits in the face of 90%of Russian citizens, which in combination are currently the voters of this same (or another of the same) of the President .
 
Implementation of the program of de-Stalinization and desovietization people of Russia do not want to because it (the program), he does not like. In general and in particular: the average score of the program (on an 11-point scale ranging from -5 to +5) is equal to -2.85! If the share estimates on the negative (-5, -4, -3), neutral (-2, -1, 0, +1, +2) and positive (+3, +4, +5), the total score becomes quite clear: it is negative - see figure below.
 


Question number 1. We ask you to evaluate the program of de-Stalinization - with the main provisions of which you've just learned - for the following 11-point scale, bearing in mind that:
 
5 - is the most positive rating, it means that the program you really like, do you consider it correct and useful;
 
0 - what do you think about the program is neutral, it is you do not care;

-5 - Is the most negative assessment, it means that a program you do not like, do you consider it harmful and wrong.


 

Thus, the correct and useful "program say only 10%of the population, yet 20%are indifferent to it, while 70%- are clearly negative. But it is not surprising - just because a program are considered harmful and wrong, people, and "vote" against its holding in the country.
 



 




 

 

 








 

 



 




 

 

 

 




 

 

 




 

 










 








 

 



 




 



 




 

 



 




 

 



 




 



 








 

 

 

 

 

 
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[Ika-Ika]

Trap
Support is another de-Stalinization of Russian society?

President, International Public Foundation Experimental Creative Center "
 Sergei Kurginian


 Desovietization NON-STOP

July 3, 2009 in Vilnius on 18 th Annual Session of OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. At that session, the OSCE adopted a resolution titled "Reuniting a divided Europe."
 The resolution unequivocally equalized Nazism and Sovietism (Stalinism, communism).
She stated that the Soviet Union - Criminal State carrying out genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity.
 It is strongly recommended to stop the "embellishment past" and its "glorification", including "the holding of public demonstrations in commemoration of the Nazi or Stalinist past."
 In 2009, Russia refused to support the resolution, the OSCE, that is not trapped. The resolution was then condemned and the Foreign Ministry and the Duma, and the patriarch.
 A little less than two years.
February 1, 2011 in Ekaterinburg the meeting of the Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights. At the meeting in the presence of Russian President with a detailed and far-reaching statement on desovietization, member of the Presidential Council Karaganov.
 A number of them made - explicitly Vilnius-OBSEshnyh - ideas entered the program proposed by the Council. This means that Russia, avoiding the trap-2009, wants to become trapped in 2011, built entirely on a similar scheme. Evidence?
 In March 2011 the site appeared on the Kremlin edited the official transcript of the meeting, which caused violent reactions in many countries around the world.
 Immediately in Lithuania (and this is one of the initiators of the resolution OSCE), applauding transcript, said: "Russia has recognized the responsibility for the genocide and the Second World War!"
 And then (taking off his hat, to admire the Western ability to match words and deeds) by the mouth of the famous Lithuanian political analyst Ceslovas Ishkauskasa stated: "Not only missing one thing: as long as Moscow does not openly recognize the fact of occupation (and this would raise the question of reparations from the Soviet occupation), these programs will only be a lump of soft paper for local use. "
 So on the one hand - jubilation ("the process went"), on the other hand - resentment (when the Russian will finish before the end of the process of its political suicide?).
 But perhaps this is a tendentious reading of the Lithuanian constructive document, created by the Human Rights Council? Really!
 Speaking in the presence of President Medvedev Karaganov (one of the members of the Presidential Council) stated bluntly: "The people and the elite after the last 100 years, a little of that respect." Meanwhile, back in 2009, President Medvedev, in his address to the Federal Assembly, argued that too much of what we have, we owe only the USSR and the Soviet Union. Again, it must be noted that two years ago, falling into the trap carefully avoided. And now ...
 Karaganov, speaking before the Russian president, accusing people of committing a terrible sin of the revolution, people in the drive to power, anti-human barbaric regime and finally - think about it! - In samogenotside. Samogenotside!
 Karaganov calls including crimes of the Soviet regime "Holodomor" - though the Kremlin has always fought for it to strike a similar floor of a respectable political lexicon.
 That is Karaganov speaks Yushchenko, with whom the Kremlin has struggled. Thus, he puts in a difficult position today the Ukrainian leadership.
 But perhaps all this only makes Karaganov? Not at all! The fact that states Karaganov, then enters the text of the program "to commemorate the memory of the victims of the totalitarian regime and of national reconciliation."
 Anyone who reads the texts carefully and Karaganov points of the program "to commemorate the memory ..." easily be convinced that the real content of the program is exactly equating us (us, not the OSCE!) Communism to Nazism, and Stalin to Hitler, the Soviet Union to the Third Reich. Such assimilation is systemic. It concerns all the way up to the responsibility of the USSR during the second world war.
 The essence of the discussion today at a high level of the program is as follows.
1. We must recognize that "the people of Russia after the last 100 years almost nothing for which self-respect."
 2. Need to recognize the Soviet period of our history a great offense, and the Soviet Union - a criminal state.
 3. We must recognize that "the whole of Russia - a big Katyn. In this case, refers to the view that the mass graves at Katyn - the work of the NKVD.
 4. We must recognize that in the USSR carried out "genocide", that is, the Soviet government deliberately exterminating the Soviet people.
 5. Need to recognize the Soviet Union "totalitarian state" and on this basis to consider him the same as Hitler's Germany.
 6. It must be recognized that the USSR is responsible for the outbreak of World War II, along with Hitler's Germany.
 7. Necessary to rewrite history books to reflect all that relates to the genocide in the Soviet era and the USSR as a criminal state.
 8. Must be to prohibit civil servants to people who doubt that the Soviet Union was a criminal state.
 9. Necessary to conduct an audit of anniversaries and holidays, in order to eliminate or rename all the dates associated with the history of the Soviet Union.
 Legal and political implications of such "self-flagellation at the state level" would be disastrous. Analysis of all desovietization (de-Stalinization, detotalitarizatsy) held in the last two decades Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others, shows that regardless of anyone's intentions permanent desovietization marks the following.
 First, not disdaining anything, created the myth of the ultimate demonic Soviet period.
 Next up, either explicitly or veiled, the question of legal society, this "scoop", 70 years old who lived in evil and the terrible sin.
 Then raises the issue of a guardian. After all, if society is not legal persons, it needs an external control.
 Parallel demonized the entire history of Russia, because it is all riddled with imperial sin, gave birth to the sin of Stalinism.
 Next, identify the roots of the imperial sin, what is the whole Russian cultural matrix, it is the core of culture, it is Russianness as such. Thus destalinization becomes de-Russification.
 Parallel block demonized world of ideas related to Russia and is the last chance of humanity to non-catastrophic development in the XXI century. Outside of this block of ideas - or catastrophe or the termination of development.
 Then, the formation of new global priorities. Equating communism with fascism and Stalin to Hitler, sooner or later because of the historical logic turns into the actual rehabilitation of Hitler and Nazism.
 Finally, since the dismantling of meanings always turns dismembering the territory, even before the final completion of de-Russification (conducted by the principle: "destalinization - getting rid of imperial ambitions - getting rid of them gave birth Russianness") begins to disintegrate the country. This happened with the USSR as a result of a similar procedure.

[Grigory]

Сообщение от "Ika-Ika

Equating communism and fascism, Stalin and Hitler, sooner or later because of the historical logic turns into the actual rehabilitation of Hitler and Nazism.

The author has in mind all upside down ...
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[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Kurginian; 1623573"

are being discussed today at a high level of the program is as follows.
1. We must recognize that "the people of Russia after the last 100 years almost nothing to respect themselves "....

Amusingly, the impression that those who are against not read the program. Or worse - read ..
Here is what actually is proposed:

Objectives:

The first and foremost - the modernization of the consciousness of Russian society through the recognition of the tragedy of the people since the totalitarian regime. Encourage the establishment of community responsibility for himself, for the country. At the same time - with the main emphasis is not on the prosecution of those of our ancestors, who did the genocide, the destruction of faith and morals, but in compliments and perpetuating the memory of victims of the regime. End of the civil war unleashed in 1917

is necessary to perpetuate the memory of the victims, in particular, is necessary to conduct a mass installation of the obelisks and other signs of memory in the graves of victims of the totalitarian regime, and in the towns and villages, where they were arrested and where they were taken. Need to deploy state-public assistance program tracing and identifying graves of victims of repression. This program, as well as the installation program marks the memory from the outset to give an international character: it must be common for all CIS and Baltic countries, and possibly also for other countries included in the "socialist camp" ...

must finally declassified archives in order to stop hiding from ourselves the terrible truth about the atrocities that were happening in our country. Hiding the truth known to all, we disgrace ourselves and associate with a totalitarian regime.

[I-V]

Сообщение от "Ika-Ika

And I think that there would be no collapse of the Soviet Union and all of this pandemonium, if not died such a terrible number of Russian people in the war, because there is still the best head. A
where they could still be at that time?

Somewhere here ...


http://www.rian.ru/infografika/20100...059972-ig.html

[Ika-Ika]

Сообщение от IV

because there is still the best head

who defended their country against fascism, would prevent the war and the death of Stalin came to power, the people with whom began the destruction of the country from within.

Here are the many consequences of war carries with it ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Ika-Ika; 1623723 "

who defended their country against fascism , was not allowed to have the power to defend it in times of peace the people with whom started it ( the country ) destruction .

Alex - Eustace ...
Mueller No nothing can make out , " which " confused . >

Сообщение от Ika-Ika

Here are the many consequences of bears fascism ...

... thought Standartenfiihrer SS Stirlitz . >

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Konstantin; 1623661"

is necessary to perpetuate the memory of the dead, and in particular the need to carry out mass installation of obelisks and other signs of memory in the graves of victims of the totalitarian regime, and in the towns and villages, where they were arrested and where they were taken. You must deploy the state-public assistance program tracing and identifying places of burial of victims of repression. This program, as well as the installation program marks the memory from the outset to give an international character: it has become common for all CIS and Baltic countries, and perhaps for other countries that were part of the "socialist camp" ...

Constantine is a good example how to apply to human memory ..
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President Nursultan Nazarbayev, Prime Minister - Minister, Cabinet members, members of Parliament, Mayor of Astana and Akmola region, and other officials attended the opening of the memorial. The ceremony was held strictly and humbly, that's not a holiday, a memorable date bitter. "For Kazakhstan, this date has a special meaning," - said in his speech Nursultan Nazarbayev. Fate decreed that Kazakhstan has become a haven for the millions of deported people of different nationalities, a place of exile tens of thousands of innocent people. And the peace-loving people of Kazakhstan has managed to warm the warmth and disadvantaged helped them endure and survive in difficult times. "If we want to get rid of the terrible legacy of those years, we have to defend and promote democracy on the basis of national consensus - continued his speech President-We must say to all those who perished and who survived those terrible years: your sacrifices were not in vain . You passed on to future generations of Kazakhstan immunity to the virus of violence and extremism. You have opened to us the historical perspective that we will sell. "
During a short ceremony unveiling were guests from Russia, persecuted daughter and son Gregory and Lyudmila Olkhovaya Ostrin. Then headed by the President the first group of the first visitors to pass through the "Arch of Sorrow", which opens Memorial. After seeing the complex, Nursultan Nazarbayev and his entourage laid a wreath at the Memorial Wall with the names of 7620 women - female prisoners Algeria. Mournful minute of silence returned memory "of those who are not coming never," memory, which is where, 35 kilometers southwest of the capital, on the shores of picturesque Lake Zhalanash was the infamous "camp wives traitors" - "ALGERIA" where at different times contained more than 20 000 women. Women whose only fault was that they were simply wives arrested, shot "enemies." Today in the living of them remained practically unity. But alive their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, has remained the memory of the ordeal of those dark years, and thus continue to live the hope that this will not ever return.
Therefore, the memorial is not only a tribute to the memory of those who suffered from a totalitarian regime, and edification of posterity.
http://www.musei-kz.narod.ru/open.htm