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roman99 · 14-05-2011, 09:53

Please help find the author's picture and the approximate price.

I think this is the Flemish school of 17-18 century?

Oil on canvas.
Size: 80x56sm.

Thanks in advance.

Игорь Гурьев · 14-05-2011, 20:12

Likely, Holland end 17 or 18 century.

Cost?

Hard to say.

roman99 · 14-05-2011, 20:53

Know the author?

Signed - ARTIVS?

It seems to me that this piece of signatures?

And the letter you can at least learn the terms of the author?

roman99 · 19-05-2011, 20:24

Could it be - Pieter Breughel the Younger?

sergejnowo · 19-05-2011, 21:05

roman99, work on a couple of hundred years under than during the life of Pieter Breughel the Younger.

Show the back of the work can be said more precisely.

Pecheneg · 19-05-2011, 21:38

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Originally Posted by "roman99

Signature - ARTIVS?

I think that part of the letters have been lost and only the last letters of the signature ...

Amateur · 19-05-2011, 22:48

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Originally Posted by sergejnowo; 1640011"

job for a couple of hundred years older than the period of life of Pieter Breughel the Younger

You obviously wanted to say "under"? And it turns out that this pattern applies to the XV century ... then so has not yet written.
The composition reminiscent of Averkampa (Hendrick Avercamp, 1585 - 1634) and Drohslota (Joost Cornelisz Droochsloot, 1586 - 1666). But such a plot (beginning of work on the breakdown of garden and grounds under the house?) They do not. By the way, by Pieter Brueghel the younger plot with garden (on the final stage), there really is (see (3)). But there people are shown at work, but here - talking, mostly. Interesting inscription ARTIVS - for font and style (replacing "U" in "V") is similar to the XVII century. ARTIUS in Latin means "skilled in the art, but for some reason there is no mention anywhere of such a signature from someone. Yes, and men's suits, lying under the tent (owner?) Somehow does not suit very similar to the XVII century. For a definitive diagnosis needs a technological analysis of paint.

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Originally Posted by Pecheneg

I think that part of the letters have been lost and only the last letters of the signature ...

Perhaps, but these artists I have not found. From the XVII century is Jan Gaspar Gevartius but, although he was a friend of Rubens, but the artist was not. Tend to think that this painting - the work of some collective farm of the XIX century ...

roman99 · 19-05-2011, 23:58

Thank you all!

Work is in Holland, will be there to do the examination.

Игорь Гурьев · 20-05-2011, 05:27

You see .
Painting , judging from reproductions, and quite zdorovskaya , but absolutely no one recalled a more or less well-known Dutch .

More precisely , is a kind of concentration of all of them together .

The more I look at it , the more I like it ...

But with no author's name , more than 5,000 Jews , it would be difficult to sell .
And then , if you're lucky ...

Amateur · 20-05-2011, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guriev, Igor

painting, judging from reproductions, and quite zdorovskaya, but absolutely no one recalled a more or less well-known Dutch.

More precisely, is a kind of concentration of all of them together.

Absolutely true noticed.

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