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Старый 01.09.2011, 03:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Brut ( Fr. Art Brut - Art rude , crude, uncut art) - a term coined by French artist Jean Dubuffet to describe them gathered a collection of paintings , drawings and sculpture created by non- artists who as a public and with the mental point of view are marginalized ( mentally ill , disabled , prisoners, queers - singles , mediums , etc. ). Their works are highly spontaneous and almost independent of cultural patterns. In particular , the work of the mentally ill is not considered to conventions likelihood scenic outlook and conventional scales, does not recognize the distinction of real and fantastic , the hierarchy of materials, etc. As an equivalent in English literature , the term art outsiders who entered in 1972 art historian Roger Cardinal. Similar phenomena - a marginal art , naive art , folk art , visionary or intuitive art , new fiction (Fr. Neuve Invention), primitivism .


(based on site art-brut.info)

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On the work of the mentally ill

Madness ... madness is that? Terrible disease? The degeneration of humanity? Avoiding the common sense of reality? In every science and every field of human activity on this issue would be your answer, but as a rule in all the theories explaining this phenomenon madness will be characterized as a deviation from the norm. It is a deviation from the norm makes a person crazy. But what then is the norm? Where Described the same standard, under which is equal to normal people? Where she had been laid face across which the socially useful person, group of society, becomes an outcast, otchuzhdentsem, dangerous and insane patients who urgently need to isolate them from society and forced to heal? Maybe the whole thing in the world? They say fools are living in a world similar to the one in which they live everyone else, but is it bad? Have been possible the modern world such as we see it today, if all men since the beginning would have the same outlook? After all, for that would create something new, it is necessary to deviate from the norm, to look at reality from a different angle, to resist the primitive fear of the unknown and to lift the curtain behind which lie the new unknown creatures dwell. In each era can be traced people who are not afraid to be normal, whose world went far beyond the current standards at that time, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, Einstein, Tesla, they do not mind standard turned the world, broke the rules and framework of primitive exalted ideas before What we use and see today. It's always a deviation from the norm is bad? What is different from the world of lunatic genius of the world? Perhaps the genius of the same form of insanity? In today's world began to think about it, and began to create different directions in art and science, where the mentally ill or outsiders could show their unusual abilities and a world that is already in the first steps gave great results. What a surprise it was the public when they learned that some of the patients in psychiatric centers and hospitals have unfathomable to the average person mathematical ability. Some of them may have in mind to add and multiply complex cumbersome fractions, with high accuracy of the numbers show the root, etc. In other patients manifested craving for art, painting, sculpting. There is a strong resemblance to the drawings insane great creations of artists Surrealists such as Salvador Dali, Arno Brecker, Ernst Fuchs and others

Now search for and development of talent among the mentally ill is gaining popularity, people are starting to realize that mentally ill people are not able to get along in society also have their personality, can also feel and perceive the world, but in its own way, differently from all other . We can only help them to adapt and get along in our world, to learn how to interact with him, but in no case without destroying their identity, without suppressing their worldview, not hanging on their labels. After all, in whom one of them behind a mask of confusion and pain can disappear quite a genius, a creator, which is destined to bring into this world, something new.

(Based on site art-brut.info)




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On the mental work

Madness ... what is madness? A terrible disease? The degeneracy of mankind? Avoiding the common sense of reality? In every science and every sphere of human activity on this issue will be the answer, but as a rule in all theories explaining this phenomenon madness will be characterized as a deviation from the norm. That deviation from the norm makes a person crazy. But what then is the norm? For a description of the same standard, under which should be equal to all the normal people? Where she had been laid face across which socially useful person unit of society, becomes an outcast, otchuzhdentsem, dangerous and insane patients who urgently need to be isolated from society and forced to heal? Maybe the whole thing in the world? They say that fools are living in a world similar to the one in which they live everyone else, but is it bad? Would be possible today's world such as we see it today, if all men since the beginning would have the same outlook? After all, for that would create something new, it is necessary to deviate from the norm, look at reality from a different angle, to resist the primitive fear of the unknown and lift the curtain behind which lie the new unknown creatures dwell. In each epoch can be traced people who were not afraid to be normal, whose ideology went far beyond the current standards at the time, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, Einstein, Tesla, they do not mind standard turned the world, broke the rules and framework of primitive exalted ideas before What we use and see today. It's always a deviation from the norm is bad? What is different from the world of lunatic genius of the world? Perhaps the genius of the same form of insanity? In today's world began to think about it, and began to create a variety of directions in art and in science, where the mentally ill or outsiders could show their unusual ability and outlook, that the first steps have already given great results. What was the surprise of the public when they learned that some of the patients in psychiatric hospitals and centers have incomprehensible to the average person mathematical ability. Some of them may have in mind to add and multiply complex cumbersome fractions, with a high accuracy of the numbers show the root, etc. In other patients manifested craving for art, painting, sculpting. There is a strong resemblance to the mental pictures great creations of artists surrealists such as Salvador Dali, Arno Brecker, Ernst Fuchs and others

Now search for and development of talent among the mentally ill is gaining popularity, people are starting to realize that mentally ill people are not able to get along in society also have their personality, can also feel and perceive the world, but in his own way, differently from all other . We can only help them to adapt and get along in our world, learn to interact with him, but in no case without destroying their identity, not suppressing their worldview, not hanging on their labels. After all, in whom one of them behind a mask of confusion and pain may well be hiding a man of genius, a creator, which is destined to bring into this world, something new.

(Based on site art-brut.info)



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On the work of the mentally ill

They say fools are living in a world similar to the one in which they live everyone else, but is it bad?
(based on site art-brut.info)
Gave a short help my wife - a psychiatrist, a leading researcher at the Hospital of Medical Sciences.

" Non-standard view of things " (in this context) is caused by deficiency in the brain and a violation of dofomina neyrotransmiternyh ties, and is called " schizophrenic ."


In the early stages - hearing voices and " penetrating eye space ."
At later - crawls on all fours and eat gobies from ashtrays.
In the final - die from organ failure .

In Russia now currently available drugs is almost out of production , alternative galaperedolu (a medicine for which psychiatry called "punitive ") are the medications of thousands of 12-15 per month .

 Everybody passes the requests of Mental Health and the recommendation is not very long haul " unusual " relative to the monasteries ( says that acute psychosis are well treated, if not run ).




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Madness is frightening, and the man himself is conscious madness awful.
Do we have hospitals?!
And what does the sick?!

Good, there is nothing and it shows in pictures.

Mindedness and the disease-are two different things, the first productively and efficiently, the second-destructive and leads to death.



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One striking example of the peaks of creativity is a mental creation , Vladimir Yakovlev , whose works in recent years, exhibited at the exhibitions in this country and abroad , and actively bought in the collections of museums and private collectors. I also have a collection of two-sided figure . In my opinion, quite typical of his work. Wanted to put in writing , but I have been expanding and php htm, but they are not perceived by the local system of wealth management. We'll have a link to my blog, where both images are laid out (forgive me , as an exception , a moderator ): http://blogs.mail.ru/inbox/chess_player1964/.



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Well there's nothing and it shows in the pictures .
In general , the theme is, of course - horrible .
I read poetry as much mental shiver crept .. ..
But such a fact exists, it must understand and accept ..

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Everyone wishes to transfer mental health
It gives me great pleasure to join this wish.
And add - let no one never have to deal with such ... only in this thread .. >



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" Non-standard view of things " (in this context) is caused by deficiency in the brain and a violation of dofomina neyrotransmiternyh ties, and is called " schizophrenia ".
Well, here are the same and the definition of schizophrenia. >
And some just can not be determined :
It's a pity that I did not bother to ask the professor what schizophrenia . ( c) >

And , incidentally, can be tested for schizophrenia or for " lack of brain dofomina "?



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Well, here are the same and the definition of schizophrenia. >

And by the way , you can make an analysis of schizophrenia or a "deficiency in the brain dofomina "?
No, tests do not, although some hard -scientific ways it is theoretically possible. So doctors are necessary to use verbal methods.



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So the doctors are necessary to use verbal methods.
In the ...
We sat and talked , the doctor seemed to answers, or original, or weird, but just in case Ds on the basis of analysis of these responses and behavior of the patient , even flipped International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health , decides to put all the same F20.
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I read poetry as much mental shiver crept .. ..
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