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Old 13-03-2009, 15:14 Original language: Russian        #1
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Help with the identification of the portrait. I think that it is a Russian school. I would be grateful for any information.
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He looks like an intellectual descended from the former, under the jacket is visible undershirt, and on the neck, under the throat, the butterfly. What a bibliophile - the seller from the banks of the Seine.



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What a bibliophile - the seller from the banks of the Seine
Perhaps I would also attributed to the French school. As a Russian school is not seen ... Do nothing at all about the portrait is not known?



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Stanislavsky, and that? absolutely no clues? At least through whom canvas come ...
What do you think - frame dear?
A good thing.



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Stanislavsky, and that? absolutely no clues? At least through whom canvas come ...
What do you think - frame dear?
A good thing.
Thing is very good. It is my friend in America. Purchased on the occasion, and now wants to sell. As for the frame - not sure.

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I think I would also attributed to the French school. As a Russian school is not seen ... Do nothing at all about the portrait is not known?
Perhaps you're right. I seen that it is something the Russian-French. Russian "Ecole de Paris", so to speak.



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Frankly, the very first time flashed across my mind that the author - an American, but then I parted with it, it is very much to me seemed strange. It is clear that in America the French paintings are more than enough, but now this, I may say so, the idea I do not think so very wild.: Shy: Maybe the U.S. really something?



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I would be grateful for any information.
This is not information. Just thinking. Because when such a permit for painting concrete will not say anything.

Judging by exploring the background - not Russian brush. If it does not glare on the right temple, and the light, you do not remember any such portrait in the performance of the Russian artist.

Clothes, haircuts character mannered Skipper beard, glasses, the size of the book, that is, property certificates, which can be judged more or less definitely, I know that, most likely, is depicted still an American citizen.

That's beside prishesh ... very subjectively, but read in the picture emancipation, inner freedom of character - a wise man, grated.

What would I do?
The character most likely to be fairly well-known personality, at least, to the extent of any state.
It should relate at least place of purchase paintings from famous people there.
Ponimamayu that ghostly, but ...

It would be nice to see the stretcher, but, as I understand, the picture is not you.
I do not know U.S. prices on such things, but these canvases with Provenance yes! Maybach stand.

So, IMHO, the beginning of 20 century, x m, a portrait of a scientist or a writer, yet unknown, but a very talented artist USA.,
Just do not say that this old Ham in his youth: p



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If it does not glare on the right temple, and the light, you do not remember any such portrait in the performance of the Russian artist.
Vasily Perov Portrait of Fyodor Dostoyevsky, 1872, 99H80, 5, x /m, for example.
Artist on the forehead of the writer portrayed a highlight! It is a pity not see it on reproduction.
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Cyril Syzransky, so, so not so!
But why should discuss, not seeing first-hand of either of the other pictures?.

 

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Evaluate or give an opinion on reproduction or on the monitor screen paintings unacceptable. But the fact that this work has no relation to the Russian school of painting - this is so visible. And if you pay attention to the manner of registration of hair, coat, hands, face, it is safe to say that it is fictional, a composite image, and apparently counterfeit of a masterpiece. The composition and anatomy suggests that it was not written with nature. This is reflected also flashing on his face. I felt unprofessional use of white, that in the Russian school of painting is unacceptable. But it's all empty talk, need examination. You're hoping to sell it as a masterpiece of the Russian school of painting?



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