Cigarette case

[gran]

Hello All.

Help rating cigarette case.

84 Silver Ave

weight 302 g.

Enamel.

[usynin2]

Zdravstvuyte.Na 4 photo strange kleyma.Net master list of names and the stigma that probirera.I for stamp next to the breakdown?. Sincerely, Alexander.

[gran]

Сообщение от usynin2

Zdravstvuyte.Na 4 photo strange kleyma.Net master list of names and the stigma that probirera.I for stamp next to the breakdown?. Sincerely, Alexander.

List of names blurred, but are more likely to stand the letters MD

Master Nikitin Moscow until 1908

Cigarette cases of this master are ...

With the SW ..

[cezar2705]

Сообщение от gran

Nominalia blurred , but are more likely to stand the letters MD
Master Nikitin Moscow until 1908
Cigarette cases of this master are ...
With the SW ..

on the submitted photos is nothing like Nikitin is not detected, a cigarette case and his work , which is unlikely according to the brand, ornament later , most likely Ossetia , Dagestan possible

[Пелагея Ларина]

To the left of the head in the headdress on your stigma is clearly visible from the Greek alphabet letter "delta"

According to the handbook Postnikova - Loseva mark on your subject corresponds to the stigma of the District Assay Administration 1908 1926g.g .
« Tattoo assay county departments and provincial probirerov - a woman's head in the headdress , facing to the right .
Assay each district to the stigma in the oval plate adding a letter of the Greek alphabet , and from set of samples »

Your stamp number 3887 corresponds to the Directory - Moscow Assay Administration , Nizhny Novgorod and Tula provincial probirery . (Photo from the directory ) .

Сообщение от cezar2705

likely Ossetia , Dagestan possible

On the stigma of the Transcaucasian assay controls on the left letter "O".

[cezar2705]

Сообщение от Pelagia Larina

To the left of the head in the headdress on your stigma is clearly visible from the Greek alphabet letter "delta"

According to the handbook Postnikova - Loseva mark on your subject corresponds to the stigma of the District Assay Administration 1908 1926g.g .
« Tattoo assay county departments and provincial probirerov - a woman's head in the headdress , facing to the right .
Assay each district to the stigma in the oval plate adding a letter of the Greek alphabet , and from set of samples »

Your stamp number 3887 corresponds to the Directory - Moscow Assay Administration , Nizhny Novgorod and Tula provincial probirery . (Photo from the directory ) .





On the stigma of the Transcaucasian assay controls on the left letter " O ».

No one argues that the cigarette case is not original , I want to point out that the enamel is applied later , and still I think you'll agree that when counterfeiters mint coins , they do not indicate the place of Moscow Vladikavkaz

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and if you can tell me about this stigma

[cezar2705]

and if you can tell me about this stigma

[Пелагея Ларина]

Сообщение от cezar2705

Nobody claims that cigarette case is not original , I want to point out that the enamel is applied later , and still I think you'll agree that when counterfeiters minted coins , they do not indicate the place of Moscow Vladikavkaz

Uh .. not - about the authenticity - here I am - pass - I am not an expert .
Just give information on the basis of submitted photos.

Сообщение от cezar2705

if you can tell me , and this stigma

"George " - the Moscow assay office mark
 " AA " - the initials of the assay master Anatoly Artsibashev Apollonovich
Compare with photos from the directory MM Postnikova - Loseva . You can also find and maker's mark .
On the Internet I came across directory - you can download . If necessary - look for a link .

[gran]

Сообщение от cezar2705

Nobody claims that cigarette case is not original , I want to point out that the enamel is applied later , and still I think you'll agree that when counterfeiters minted coins , they do not indicate the place of Moscow Vladikavkaz

And yet Moscow
Hallmarks : list of names in a rectangular plate " NAM " ( DP Nikitin owner of the shop gold and silver jewelry 1893-1917 ) sample of the metal spool figure - 84 , the sign of identity - women's head is turned to the right - 1908-1917 ), silver 875 , Moscow .
Nikitin DP
Russia
1908-1917
Yes, what is meant by * enamel applied later * ? ?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от cezar2705

I want to point out that the enamel is applied later

How do you take?
all the more so by the photos.

Сообщение от gran

Yeah, and what is meant by * enamel applied later *??

OK .. you have an old enamel.