Fine arts - Study Thaw

[Paulle]

Sketch a picture F.Vasileva, exhibited in the Tretyakov Gallery and the Russian Museum.
In the old frame.
Size 21.5 by 45 cm

Inquiring ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

These
the edge of the board show that they marked the grid with which to copy the image, I think.

[Paulle]

If you start from the history of the "thaw " - the first film , which is in the Tretyakov Gallery, like the Emperor, and he ordered her to the Russian Museum. Vasiliev wrote it. For this , it is logical to have used the sketch. Which, in turn, make the necessary markup to move the plot ...
Correct if I'm not in the logic ...

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Сообщение от Paulle

make the necessary markup to move the story ...

Exactly.
Only in your case, the first layout was done on some of the reproduction, from what has been written and illustrated version.
This work is not F.Vasileva.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

To get started: your thing is not sketch for ( you call " study" ), but simply repeats the FA Vasilyev "thaw" in 1871 .

Сообщение от Paulle; 2483841"

first picture, which is in the Tretyakov Gallery, like the Emperor, and he ordered her to the Russian Museum .

Yeah, for two - in SRM (acquired by PM Tretyakov ) and timing (order emperor).
But! There is also another version of the smaller size , dated 1870 by the artist , and which belonged to KT Soldatenkova, then was in the MRM ( Rumyantsev Museum ), and in 1920 was transferred to the Museum of Art Kuibyshev (now SOHM ) and now the location of is unknown.
Does not your case?
As you kind of logic ?

[Paulle]

To some extent, the logic is. Only if we assume that Soldatenkov wrote it with an existing picture Vasiliev ... And if it was in 1870, it turns out that somehow simultaneously. By the way, what is known and how this Soldatenkov was in a museum ? >
And yet what factors have determined that it can not be the same Vasiliev ? >

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Only if we assume that Soldatenkov wrote it with an existing picture Vasiliev ...

Kozma Terent'evich Soldatenkov paintings did not write, he bought them . >

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By the way, what is known and how this Soldatenkov was in a museum ?

 Well , Soldatenkov no less famous than the Tretyakov, and he also owned a large and famous collection of paintings and ancient icons with "saved" by Andrei Rublev, by the way.

Yes, Botkin Hospital until 1920 was called Soldatenkovskoy .

[Paulle]

With that sorted out .. > And I really rassteryalsya - what an artist known - unknown .. Well, sort of figured out the ignorance , I hope .. >
As soon as it could be 1870, when the official history of painting begins with 1871 ? >
This picture has no signature .. Although the age - the same that time .. >

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Paulle

As soon as it could be 1870, when the official history of painting begins with 1871?

Read carefully:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

smaller version, dated 1870 by the artist

This option is signed F. Vasiliev and it is dated.

[Paulle]

And what would you recommend in this case?

The signature itself is not the picture, time is clearly coincides with the period of writing known samples, is ...
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What could be in this case, artistic and material value?
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What can be expected in this case assessment?
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