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Старый 23.12.2012, 22:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Peter Miturich (?) Crimea (?) Oil on canvas 38h50 on cardboard

While recently in Moscow and solving modest task of the coming of the New Year arrangement of the table, trying vtyuhat organizers of "Theatre Goleizovsky" some names from the repertoire of their shows. As might be expected, was not successful - they (the organizers) have to deal with his own material, completed and included in the catalog ...

This completely overlooked ended last weekend at the gallery "The Ark" exhibition "Vera Khlebnikov - Peter Miturich."

Available Miturich shown in the photo. Signature looks authentic, however, is written, most likely. "Dry," which, of course, a little embarrassing. Although studies with work could be signed and later, and glued to cardboard with a canvas may well be dated mid-20th century, never circumcised and traces of other, reduced the signature on it is not visible. And that thing painted a very high quality, I think everyone sees without me.
Confused and a small number of similar comparative material. The most similar thing "Crimea. Sudak 1939." Shown me in the end, managed to find just the past in the "ark" exhibition, and special literature on the artist, unfortunately, do not have ...

Like, enough written. I suggest to anyone who has something to say, to pronounce on the authenticity of, and interested in buying (if they exist) - do neoskorbitelnye proposal.
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Старый 23.12.2012, 22:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Confused and a small number of similar comparative material


However, something is:

http://molotok.ru/kartina-gornyj-pej...850953479.html



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Старый 24.12.2012, 00:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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And it is not repugnant to you, my dear, for such dumps climbing > ( just kidding).
And I thank God, the master of things to avoid the temptation to try to represent yourself ! However, I think , set the item to " hammer " with its reservation about the " other sites" , for a master like even less.

I , at least , the presence of things to handle ( at the moment) is not necessary.
What's more , I can get for less money into the bargain female black /white watercolor portrait Miturich 35h25 very reminiscent Vera Khlebnikov and 100%real!
It , I'm certainly not on any other " platforms " for the last 15-20 years is at my home .



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Старый 24.12.2012, 00:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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and not disgusting to you, my dear, for such dumps climb


And do not ask (me), I almost threw up!



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Старый 24.12.2012, 15:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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Honestly waited a while, I see that to any constructive way things discussion does not come out ... Of course, it is understandable, non-obvious question: praise thing atributiruesh Miturich, and suddenly you will get trapped, scold, like, too, not at all.
This is a known trash exercise in wit or some very big name obgadit - always willing enough ...

But I have to you, Toinen, the question: what purpose you use this stuff about having to "hammer" is posted?
I was accused of something? Like, no.
Case of authentication such as a broker? I do not know ... of course, of any information can and should derive benefit. But I would have understood if some of forum will be newcomer bursting from his own insight, and you, like, an experienced man, also wrote to me that we know personally ... I, however, remember that dating can not, but a personal meeting to clarify the situation you do not want. Well, you never know who has what concerns ... most importantly, as I understand, there is no "burning" in the relationship we have with you was not there!
I am sure that I had no intent in any person not suspected in the first place would he threw in a personal information about the "hammer".

I note also that the photos from your links about things there is little to say, but those that I did personally seen almost everything!
Thing is in the shop at my friends and was there a week or two earlier. I am sure that some of the explicit "contraindications" they would have told me.
Now imagine for a moment that with your feed and on my photo someone recognizes things "nature", and displaying quickness, quickly buy it. Are you in front of me is not the least bit ashamed of it?
Honestly, not trying to somehow heat the atmosphere. The question is not that absolutely not worth a damn, but, of course, is not so serious to complain because of him.
Just in matters of sale on the internet do not have little to no experience, and in general, to the commission trade foreign things are not inclined. So I'm really interested in what relation to the concept of the so-called professional ethics is laid out your information.
"Thank you" for your messages on display, of course, respected and honored by our people, but one among them John Preston seems to me to really "dealer" subject. So, while I attribute them only at the expense of humor and intelligence, manifested by you ...



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AlexSpb, I just gave a fact , does it not commenting (you complained about the lack of comparative material )
And for that I should be ashamed? This picture to " hammer " is not defined , I did not know that this information is secret ( secret it was just for you ).
You better check with my friends why they put a picture on the "Hammer" without your knowledge.




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Старый 24.12.2012, 17:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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" Thank you" for your messages on display, of course, respected and honored by our people ,
 Is not genuinely consider themselves to belong to any " reputable " or - even more so - to " deserved the forum" people find it necessary to answer for his albeit insignificant , but still - the bazaar.

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So, while I attribute them only at the expense of humor and intelligence , manifested by you ...
Exclusively! So I personally do ( and no one ) offensive in his "thank you " is not invested , honest - blaarodnoe ! However, in absolute benevolence Toinen'a I do not doubt ...
(Hopefully , Toinen not be angry at me for a clumsy attempt to shut it down his frail cargo ... wanted to write " breasts ", but then thought , thought, and stopped at the " chest " ...)
 Sincerely, Dilettante .



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Старый 24.12.2012, 18:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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Well, as to what can be embarrassing, I think, wrote clear:
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Now imagine for a moment that with your feed and on my photo someone recognizes things "nature", and displaying quickness, quickly buy it
And by the way, do not think that I something very wrong. Just a sober reflection, I believe that in this case "no cause for alarm," probably not. Canvas stretched on a dirty cardboard, does not look "firm" and, most of all, someone took the obscure thing 70 or 80 years, brought her way to the mind at the same time signing Miturich ...
But I'm not too hot, right?

I just have not too incomprehensible how people can prodelyvat a considerable amount of work on the prospect for the thing to get a thousand dollars.
On the "hammer" and "Ebay" did not happen, and that to "my friends" because it is, of course, they have posted there thing.
Even the number of things the seller (about a thousand), it is clear that this man sharyas the city, all potentially available for sale shall be posted on your page in a "hammer." Everyone has their own business ...

And I am inclined to believe in good. Now, in the sense of remarkable discoveries, times are hard, but the story of my personal risk of purchased a such miracles to which all failures (happily forgotten), really - pale!

Can some more, in order of academic interest, to speculate on the legality of putting some Toinen nd that information, but I think not in this much sense. After all, no one here owes nothing and resolves such issues for myself ...

Now try something a little more grateful for the attribution to publish ...




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Now imagine for a moment that the with your pitch and my photo someone recognizes things " nature" , and displaying quickness , quickly buy it .

And I got to do with it? (This is not my submission , but a real pass! )
I do not understand how , holding a picture of the resource with hundreds of thousands of users , you want to keep it secret ? Or was it done in secret from you?
You should be grateful to me for information if you do not want to be bought on the sly "hammer" (although this can only dream)




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Старый 24.12.2012, 19:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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And I got to do with it?
I do not understand how , holding a picture of the resource with hundreds of thousands of users , you want to keep it secret ? Or was it done in secret from you?
Yes , I did not put it on the resource and not my thing , so I need someone to be hiding. Just someone to see a thing in the store , I decided not to bother, as I do , questions of authenticity, and that's to go along this path ...
Well now , I hope everything turned out!



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