September 21, 1380 - the victory of Russian troops in the Battle of Kulikov

[Santa]

The victory of Russian troops in the Battle of Kulikov


Kulikovo - the battle of Russian troops, led by Grand Duke of Moscow and Vladimir, Dmitry Ivanovich and Horde troops under the command of Khan Mamaia - was a turning point in the struggle of the Russian people from the yoke of the Golden Horde.

In the second half of the 14th century, de facto ruler of the Golden Horde was one of the older emirs - my mother, who after the defeat of his troops on the river Vozhe in 1378, decided to break the Russian Princes and increase their dependence on the Horde. In the summer of 1380 he gathered a strong army and began his march into Russia.

Grand Prince Dmitry Ivanovich, hearing on the motion of the Horde forces in Moscow, has called on the collection of Russian militia to repel the enemy. Collection of Russian troops was appointed in Kolomna, was attended by representatives of almost all the lands of the North-Eastern Russia.

In addition to scrap the princes arrived troops of Suzdal, Tver and Smolensk Grand Duchy. Already in Kolomna was formed primary order of battle. Russian army into battle with Mama blessed Sergius Lesson.

The battle took place (8) September 21, 1380, at Kulikovo field near the mouth of the Don and Nepryadva, and it began a duel Russian warrior monk Peresvet with the Mongolian hero Chelubeem, where both died. Next fierce battle broke out.

The battle was long and long. Chroniclers pointed out that the horses could not not walk on corpses, as there was no clean place. Personally, Prince Dmitry Ivanovich fought in the front ranks of his troops. The enemy could not stand the pressure and began to depart, and then launched into a rout. Ambush regiment pursued the Tatars to the river 50 kilometers Beautiful Swords "beat" them "countless." Mamaia army was completely destroyed.

Kulikovo was of great historical importance in combating Russian and other peoples of the Mongol-Tatar yoke. Although it did not lead to the elimination of the Mongol-Tatar yoke in Russia, however, of Kulikovo suffered a heavy blow to the rule of the Golden Horde, to expedite its subsequent decay. An important consequence of the Kulikov battle was strengthening the role of Moscow in the Russian education a unified state.

[Fed]

"Some historians believe that the historical significance of the battle too high and it is nothing more than a simple political conflict in the Golden Horde . ":

Prussian chronicle " on both sides were killed about 40 thousand people. However, the Russian kept [ for a ] field . And when they walked out of the battle , they were confronted with the Lithuanians, Tatars, who were called there to help , and they killed a lot of Russian and took from them much booty that they took from the Tatars. "

The Polish news: "At the same time there was a great battle at the Blue Waters between the Russian and Tatar , and then was beaten to the people on both sides of four hundred thousand, while Russian won the battle. When they wanted to go home with a big booty , then collided with the Lithuanians, who were called to the aid of the Tartars, and took on Russian their prey, and killed many of them on the field . "

At one time , ten different numbers , and the result is - controversial .
Actually , this battle - shady business. Where was is unknown how many people beat - even more so.

It looks like a propaganda discovery of the second half of the 19th century .

[Moriakoff]

Сообщение от Fed; 1779013"

Looks like the propaganda the discovery of the second half of the 19th century .

Сообщение от Fed; 1779013"

"Some historians believe that the historical significance of the battle too high and it is nothing more than a simple political conflict in the Golden Horde . ":

I absolutely agree ! And yet ... Livonians defeated army of Alexander Nevsky , the French defeated in the war of 1812. ; Americans won all the World War II ...
Oh, and ... I almost forgot , the Ukrainians won the Crimea ! >

[Pecheneg]

Сообщение от Fed

Actually, this battle-shady business.
Where was is unknown how many people beat, the more

I agree!
Especially since it was not where she identified the place to be .. And the name of "The Battle of Kulikovo" was coined as early as the 19th century ..

[Amateur]

Сообщение от Fed; 1779013"

Actually , this battle - shady business. Where was is unknown how many people beat - the more .

Military historians have written that when the then controls the troops during the battle would be impossible to manage contingent exceed 20-25 thousand people on each side. But this does not diminish the importance of the Kulikov battle for the further course of Russian history.

Сообщение от Santa; 1778953"

The battle took place (8) September 21, 1380

The difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars is constantly growing. It is currently it is 13 days, and in 1380 was 8 days ( although there were not the Gregorian calendar ). It would be better to write 8 (16) September 1380

These calendars and uncertainty associated with the holiday on February 23. He was introduced as Red Army Day , because on that day the Red Army reportedly scored its first victory . It is interesting here is not even that modern historians , this victory has not been reliably confirmed, but that day February 23, 1918 in Russia did not exist (!) : This year, after the 15th of February it became immediately on March 1.

[Сергей Дородный]

And I really wonder how they are there - two forces (and still is , and Lithuanians could there be ) met . Roads in those days ( the relative scarcity of the population) are unlikely to have been a lot of those places. Bridges, which is sometimes referred to - in general fiction.

Well, in Europe, so you can meet again, send the orderlies , intelligence - using the names of towns and villages.
But in the wide steppe ? As the arrow killed ?

[Fed]

Сообщение от Sergei burly ; 1781783"

But in the wide steppe ?

The problem is precisely that broad steppe was not. There was a dense forest , so the "darkness" is not clear how the troops in that place would have gone .

Сообщение от Moriakoff; 1779043"

And yet ... Livonians defeated army of Alexander Nevsky , the French defeated in the war of 1812. ; Americans won all the World War II ...
Oh, and ... I almost forgot , the Ukrainians won the Crimea !

Although we have about Ivan , but not ...
But if you move away from all the same theme, the Crimea was annexed by the Russian empire in the late 18th century . In the Empire was part of Ukraine , like other countries , now living separately .

P.S. One of the most famous battles in the history of Russia , called Battle on the Ice :
in the battle involved 150 Livonian Knights + approximately 700 squires with servants and lightly armed soldiers. From the Russian side of 9000 soldiers.
On the side of the Livonian Knights were killed about 20 and 400 light fighters.

Why Ice when they " fell on the grass ," April 5 ?

[Santa]

Сообщение от Fed; 1781993"

Why the Ice , when they " fell on the grass, " 5 April?

. .. So , on the ice Peipsi really fell 400 German soldiers (of which twenty were true brothers knights ), and 50 Germans ( 6 of them are brothers) came to the Russian prisoners. "The Life of Alexander Nevsky, " argues that the prisoners then went near their horses during happy hour of Prince Alexander in Pskov.
Battle on a flat surface of ice was more profitable heavy cavalry of the Order, but traditionally, a place to meet with the enemy was chosen by Alexander Yaroslavich ...

All the same , may be " falling on the ice ?" >

[Fed]

You can specify the benefit of the Germans lacked clarity , and 800 years ago. In contrast to the Novgorod chronicles , which reported losses of the Germans, above all of the existing order ( which at that time engaged in quite other things ). And which are not joined to any size of military units or common sense. 800 year old propaganda and now will not let go .
Incidentally, this raises an interesting question about the credibility of other Russian chronicles . Because of the minimal number of historians cling to the crumbs of information , paying little attention to its authenticity. For example, a writer Chivilikhin that sort of use of Rapova OM, he led all the calculations more serious , but it is an example of the official successors failed.

In a battle involving 35 knights and knights - 365 .
20 knights were killed, six taken prisoner and later exchanged for prisoners of Novgorod . How many knights were killed - is unknown, but appears to be a lot of them retreated to the very heat of battle , which broke the German tactical building .

On the ice, they were fighting or not - will not install.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Fed

On the ice, they were fighting or not - will not install.

How not to install?

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