Private collectors is getting smaller.

[Artem]

Interesting interview in particular - the second part (expertise, unit sales at the Salon, etc.) - fully listen to the audio versionshttp://radiovesti.ru/articles/2011-05-21/fm/2115
 
Private collectors is becoming less
May 21, 2011 19:14
Culture /showbiz

This year marks 155 years since the founding of the State Tretyakov Gallery. It is the largest private gallery, which has evolved into one of the most famous museums in the world. This date has become an occasion to talk about contemporary collecting. That is happening now in this market, and the difficulties encountered to collectors today, a cultural commentator Radio Vesti FM "Anna Kocharova interviewedwith a board member of the International Confederation of atikvarov and artdilerov Oleg Tairov and zamnchalnikom Office of the conservation values ​​Rosokhrankultura Yuri Godovantsem.

Kocharova: Good afternoon. In the studio, Anna Kocharova. And I am pleased to announce today our guests. It Oleg Tairov, a board member of the International Confederation of antique and artdilerov, collector with a great experience, the critic and director of the gallery's Belvedere. Oleg, good afternoon.

Tairov: Good afternoon.

Kocharova: And Godovanets Yuri Medvedev, deputy head of the Office for Conservation of Cultural Property Rosokhrankultura, as well as Head of search and return of cultural property. Yuri A. Good afternoon.

Godovanets: Hello.

Kocharova: This year, even in this month marks 155 years since the founding of the Tretyakov Gallery. It once started as a private collection, and today was one of the largest museums in the world. Therefore, we decided to talk today about contemporary collecting. And where today this kind of collectors, they do have, Oleg?

Tairov: Almost units remained.

Kocharova: And what has caused?

Tairov: This is due to the fact that the products are very expensive, and most importantly - there is no incentive for people to gather large collections, not in the mood to collect.

Kocharova: But such collecting is now regarded not only this right thing and the thing that needs to be addressed, but it is believed that this is just a good investment. Is not this an incentive?

Tairov: I have to divide myself all collectors buyers into three categories. The first category - the true collectors, have been previously collected at the last of his money, begged, extort thing work. There were identity, and it is all the oligarchs who have more money, they have the opportunity. The second category, I call them decorators who build new houses, apartments and fill them with beautiful things. Filled the walls, and that's all stopped. Therefore, here the market is very weak in this regard. And the third category, which is growing little by little, are investors who invest in stocks, so in other securities, and wait for the price rise. But now because of the crisis middle class has fallen dramatically, and consequently dropped interest in investments. There is simply no money in people.
Kocharova: Yuriy, you are observing this process a little bit from the side. And as a person representing the government, as you consider the market in this sense are still active or not?

Godovanets: It must be borne in mind that even when there was no United States of America, in Russia in the 17 th century has been the art market, has come from the Byzantine monuments in the previous century, wax seals, certifying their authenticity .

Kocharova: So here we are still ahead of the rest?

Godovanets: Yeah, like we really are now discovering our past. And the deeper we investigate, the more we open up some additional perspective, as we could in this sense, understand, and his place in history too.

Kocharova: And does it matter? Sorry, the awareness of this important place in history for a collector?

Godovanets: The fact is that when Oleg says that yes, it is difficult to collectors, it is because of the strap, which you suggested that the Tretyakov Gallery, Pavel Tretyakov - yes, that's what has already cosmic level.

Kocharova: That is, a level not?

Godovanets: At the same time it was understood that each of us is a collector - a collector of their ancestors, their descendants collector, collector of experiences, love, and some wealth. And there's like two extremes. First - acquire a place in heaven, make your own post-mortem, they say, happiness. The second - all the forces of the soul to put out on the ground to acquire some treasures. And these treasures on earth, sooner or later too, actually ...

Kocharova: That is, there can be combined.

Tairov: And how they be? And man, as it understands that the way he enters into eternity with its two parts. But he is a holistic totality and must appear before God, the Fatherland once. In this regard we are discussing this idea of ​​an ideal project - how to combine these two incompatible things and how to go down in history?

Kocharova: It's probably too complicated. I do not know how much each collector, who starts a small or even some more extensive collection to collect, it has set itself the goal - to make history.
fully listen to the audio versions: - the second part of the interview (examination unit sales at the Salon, etc.http://radiovesti.ru/articles/2011-05-21/fm/2115

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Сообщение от Artem

Tairov : I have to divide myself all collectors buyers into three categories. The first category - the true collectors , have been previously collected at the last of his money , begged , extort thing work . There were identity , and it is all the oligarchs who have more money, they have the opportunity .

Yes, MAB would say , probably : " You , Professor , you will, something incoherent idea! "
It is they - the oligarchs - who beg and extort things and work on the last of his money ? Especially because they have opportunities . Very interesting to get just a little unclear >

[fross]

Yes , we see very bad we have become collectors and now the nice thing popularization of contemporary art and its collectors engaged in the magazine VOGUE. In the June issue of the guest editor of Dasha Zhukova tells and shows the clothes -shoes - makeup , jewelry , paintings , sculptures in one bottle , and different houses : his , and girlfriends ( Nahum Campbell , Alexander Melnichenko , Shala Monrok , Sabrina Marshall , Ambra Medd ) . Specially bought - is curious.

[Vladimir]

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is now a glorious thing popularization of collecting contemporary art magazine took up

And it has long been . Women's magazines write , interior - design ... the caravan of stories . And it is good . We can only welcome . So be it broadcast fashion to art . And from then on consumers reach their minds . Places is vulgar , but without zaum .

[Самвел]

Artem, for the second time you give a link to all sorts of programs , interviews , thank you . Interviews given by people , we can say the color of the art market , and in both cases, the views delitantov . They do not know what to say , no professionals , who can listen with interest . Stupid questions that you can do to become more collectors . Nothing can be done , captures the frivolity of people ( the show) . For example, the mud was recently anniversary DA Sakharov , very little information about nikakoy.V the same time the on Yandex , Zell page different agencies report that beat guitarist Mummy Troll , or that the tax became interested Dima Bilan . The show must stop !

[Игорь Гурьев]

Look and Godovanets became manifest.

[Тихая Сапа]

Сообщение от Samvel ; 1646103"

Artem, the second time you give a link to all sorts of programs , interviews , thank you . Interviews given by people , we can say the color of the art market , and in both cases, the views delitantov . They do not know what to say , no professionals , who can listen with interest . Stupid questions , what is fashionable to do to become more collectors . Nothing can be done , captures the frivolity of people ( the show) . For example, the mud was recently anniversary DA Sakharov , very little information about nikakoy.V the same time the on Yandex , Zell page different agencies report that beat guitarist Mummy Troll , or that the tax became interested Dima Bilan . The show must stop !!

Yes Leading admire the lack of professional approach. A feeling that she looked on the internet vpolglaza slyapannye publications such as " masterovitymi " colleagues as she did. And more! You can keep the transfer of the federal channel ... The impression that all who can work well in mass media hounding Dostum , not to stand out .

Added after 19 minutes
Licensing antique trade what has to collecting ?

No one insures the collection , and what then engaged Guild of Appraisers (or she did nothing ) ?

The most urgent problem hindering the development of an - examination ? ?

Is it true that anyone wanting to do an examination on the picture requires two thousand dollars ? Several times ordered the expertise nor the time since such figures do not collide ( unless it was about an expensive chemical analysis , or some very expensive paintings ) . Or am I hopelessly behind the times ? Rosokhrankultura Certified bunch people and continues to certify , but ends up - monopoly .

It's funny that Godovanets , speaking about the rules for art machine gives the example of laundry ))) ) What do you think it's subconscious ? ( "Hello , this is a laundry ?.... Ministry of Culture)

Can someone who has fresh information to comment ?

[Artem]

Сообщение от Samvel; 1646103"

The show must stop!

Dear Samvel.
I totally agree with you. But, considering what cultural figures in this "competition" involved .... The show will continue ........

Сообщение от Silent Sapa; 1646331 '

Yeah Leading admire the lack of professional approach

 And not only the leading ...

Сообщение от Silent Sapa

It seems that everyone who can work well in mass media hounding Dostum, to not stand out.

You are right ...

Сообщение от Silent Sapa

Is it true that anyone wanting to make the examination of the picture requires two thousand dollars?

In fact, - this gentleman, knows very well where, how, and how much expertise. is the manner and way of expression! if he even remembered the pensioners for whom the experiences of his heart, ........

Сообщение от Silent Sapa

but ends up - monopoly.

And as laugh ... Mr. Prof. ...

Сообщение от Silent Sapa; 1646331"

funny thing is that Godovanets, speaking about the rules for art machine gives the example of laundry)))) What do you think it's subconscious? ("Hello, this is a laundry ?.... Ministry of Culture)

Yes, that is how it happens. >

[Синица]

Сообщение от fross

shows clothing , shoes , cosmetics , jewelry , paintings , sculptures in one bottle , and different houses : his , and girlfriends

Yes , curious .
For example, I am glad that , on the one hand , formed the fashion for art ,
On the other hand , the surface mode , and while it is good that these " friends " have not started to buy at auction an interesting painting , and you can even buy something from the good things inexpensive for the collection , and to us.

[mihailovoh]

Categorically soglasen.chto collectors getting smaller .
If you look at the number . ( not talking about quality . here there are problems and problems with tsenoobrazovaniem.no is another matter) sold lots on auktsionah.rost at least 20-25 per cent were secured in a number of exhibitions opened . galleries . auktsionov.magazinov.voobsche silent .
Furthermore etogo.blagodarya awareness and accessibility. each worthy of an artist formed his circle of admirers , not only by place of residence .