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Старый 16.02.2014, 11:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #37
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Responsibility complicated question . Watching what . Criminal will not be exact . They need to beat the ruble , ruble .
Yes ! All - their pocketbooks.
But , those who made fake. Catapulted the fraud on the antique market . Framed lot of people ( and if the painting was sold to the bandit - he still pereubivaet all ) . And can be criminally punished. He has a composition of fraud . But this " mafia " falsifiers nobody touches .

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Ruble would be good , but as they say hot Finnish guys : "From an empty bottle did not pour her " <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
And even if it is not empty , the whole issue confirms that too, especially not pour her . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Even with the words Vasilyeva Basner did not act as an expert ( with museum quit a long time) , and as a dealer with your opinion . That's it! Basner Twin publisher , according to Vasiliev received 70,000 - about 13 %of the value of the painting ( if they are equal parts ) - this is the usual rate ! Why she says , and one in criminal proceedings ? Where the person who received the principal amount , where the publisher ? Again, I know all about it with numerous articles and videos Vasiliev.

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IMHO , the question is quite simple. Liability arises when there is intent. The expert can be wrong - and in different directions. The experts may have different opinions , and the court will weigh them in the balance power , weight, in the academic world , the availability of monographs, etc.
Old thing , published in periodicals or listing 50 years ago can not be the subject of criminal and even civil proceedings p.ch. buy as it is. Is that Marchand or deliberately concealed akutsionist important information. Vekselberg IMHO incident only confirms the rule.
  But the deliberate creation bullshit course in prison.
Also, as it confirmed , though there certainly proving to be difficult.
I think that soon we will see in Europe is one of the most interesting processes , where paintings , say , Chagall - for all he has known institution - Committee Chagall napodtverzhdal Researcher museum " Uryupinsk ." This researcher once wrote several articles about Chagall in local refereed collections. And then slapped attributions on fake paintings , whether sold simpletons , whether insured and burned ...
  Here is really a problem ...
And in Basner - the problem is not with Grigoriev . There is clear, because there was no expert activity , and was a typical deception , breach of trust and misappropriation of money fraudulently . There is a problem with Saryan , Sapunov prochitmi and similar works . Will prove that it was zavvedomo false conclusions obtained for money or a percentage of the sale. If we succeed , it will really be a precedent. And a good lesson to some " experts "
Are all paintings that passed through Basner fake ? Or her as a percentage of all errors?
Raise activity " Art Consulting " - he does not make mistakes ? And let's assume a mistake on the script and when a person intentionally say " bullshit " - man carries enormous damage while , and someone gets a chance to buy for pennies script.
Now, if a bribe to prove for " confirmation" , then the intent is.
And that would not run into this " expertise " should be checked in several centers .
Vasiliev could check before the transaction painting in the Tretyakov Gallery , Grabar , belt and did not. Why ?




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