Art-lover
Please do not ascribe to the ladies of those positions - whom they do not have and do not try to interpret them at their discretion.
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Сообщение от LCR
is that you do, gentlemen?
Why are you me my Chirico SAG ... littered his Surrealists ???!!!
Open your own story or go to Apollinaria in its "Visionary Art" and holding forth there a plenty! : (
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I beg your pardon - it seems I provoked his inappropriate opinion.
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Сообщение от Meister
Dear Ladies, I recognize the right of private opinion, but there is such a thing "as you know, time-tested".
Ninni, with the Bosch you enough. Bosch was out of time and this is clearly not the combination of dream and reality is something else ... well as Goya. This idea of the existence of another world and a vision of how he looks or how I could look like our world, but that excuse does not meet the basic tenets of surrealism.
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Dear Meister,
"fame, time-tested" is not a guarantee of talent . Coca-Cola incredibly well known vitamins in it but this did not appear. Despite this, I apologize if you hurt your personal likes - unfortunately it is an integral part of the dispute that eventually absolutely not fruitful because I have rarely seen anything if someone changed their minds because of the dispute and grievance can and accumulate ...
Nevertheless, I'll answer - I'm not so much enough about Bosch and Goya ... Each style has its own premises, its masterminds and implementers of the first steps. It is my deep conviction, and Bosch and Goya - these are for the Surrealists.
"The primary aim of the Surrealists was the spiritual elevation and the separation of spirit from the material" - rather than on carefully thought Bosch in his great paintings. The true surrealist, he certainly was not the same but it was the pit from which drank plenty Surrealists.
"Some people consider Bosch's something like a surrealist XV century, are distilling their unseen images from the depths of the subconscious, and, calling his name, always remember the Salvador Dali"
Goya is generally a separate issue ...
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Сообщение от IrinaC
Ninni, could you with an example of what a picture, pls 
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There are many pictures ...