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Старый 19.01.2009, 23:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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But once again ask the question: what to do if some third-party expert who is not a member of the forum, I saw something questionable in the "Buy" and wanted to specifically register for the forum to announce that that thing is not true? And to do so is prohibited. Hardly the man go to the "Attribution" and it will create a special theme with a discussion paintings exhibited in the "Buy". Moreover, the sense of it will be very small.
Admin, you are asked to find the answer, or is it a rhetorical question, because you already know that "the sense of it will be very small"?
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I suggested that option when you do not need an outside expert to go anywhere and create a special theme - just give a normal position with reasoning that is not immediately published in the topic of selling the picture, and automatically sent to the existing forum of specialists.
Because it is logically the only a possible way to distinguish a specialist from the hooligan or spiteful critics (will not consider the unlikely event that "two in one").
If the forum specialists will find the reasoning of the charge, let the message published by an outside expert in the subject of questionable pictures and is open to further discussion.
Since this filtering grain from the chaff is technical in nature, it is advisable to conduct it in the unseen ( "closed") to visitors and newcomers section.

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It is very difficult. You need to have well very strong motivation to go through all these obstacles.
What is the complexity and for whom?
For the administration, in terms of implementing the idea, big trouble is not expected.
Difficulties arise only for the extremists.

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And - Tit law - if someone wants to harm, he will find a way to do it.
Could not find where Tit is talking about it, but in this case, you should not make absolute evil world.
Hooliganism has no serious motivation, it arises from the momentum that quickly goes out, if it can not immediately and easily ( "here and now") to implement.
In the proposed version of me - 99%No pasaran.

A simple, transparent solution that guarantees freedom and kompetenogo discussions, and protect the dignity of honest seller. If you do not reconcile easily corrected in the details, there are any objections on the merits?

However, I can guess what the complexity.

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There is another option - not offer falshaki for sale, unless, of course, not "profane."
Everyone can make a mistake, but for the discussion and in order to understand it.
And if not submitted a fake, and the case of complex and "free" debate cast a shadow on the owner and his interests? Well, if experts discuss, and if the dispute would enter "fans"? (All are well aware that the lower the competence, the greater aplomb).

What then? Nothing! Well, bad luck, poor fellow. Wood cut - chips fly.
The idea - all people - nothing.
Sound familiar?

We may be indignant against any number of Soviet-Bolshevik, but as long as human dignity, we will respect only to itself, but in the other person to see the abstract individual, Bolshevism invincible.
And steps to implement mechanisms to protect the individual will appear to be "very difficult".
Moreover, there is also an objective factor that complicates the question: publication doubt the authenticity of the paintings vyiigryshna to maintain esprit de corps "forum, because they provide psychological justification for the statistically inevitable sales of fakes: behold, they say, were the same in some people's doubts. ..

Therefore, before discussing the topic further, it would be good to define the ideology.
Or we decide the question, "how to make the forum more objective and correct" (qwerty), and are ready for this to take certain steps, or we admit that pretends to solve.
And then descended on the brakes:
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Moreover, the section "Buy /Sell" - not the main forum. Who wants to use it - enjoy. Who does not want ... as he wishes.

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We have already tried this, only "council of experts" was open. ... undermine the image of the advertiser's website (the auction house "Sovkom"). ... Make sense to create out of the forum "expert advice" no.
First, when the "closed" discussion of the advertiser's image in the eyes of the public would not suffer.
Secondly in my scheme function "of the Expert Council" ( "connoisseurs of the Club, or whatever else) are quite simple: to determine the level of argumentation in the reported alleged forgery: serious, or joking if you please."



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