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In "School for Scandal," asked a leading chef, to publish a collection of recipes authentic Russian cuisine and excitedly telling her about the richness and diversity:
- And you eat only food of Russian cuisine?
On what he told her:
- Well, why not? I'm cooking a patriot, not a culinary chauvinist.

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

Abstract nothing shows, so deprives himself of the quality criterion.
In abstractionism no miracle there.
Abstract nothing shows, so he is so miserable from the point of art.
... Failure of abstract painting is quite obvious.
Pictorial abstraction - BEZBLAGODATEN

Your perseverance to be envied, but the arguments -
level spells lecturer times of stagnation. ))
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Сообщение от Igor Sasha

"I was dead tired from life,
None of it did not accept.
But I love this sinful earth,
Because some had not seen "
and
"Holes Blvd schyl, of course, have something in common.

But that's only on "Dyrbulschyle" twisted and finished, and M. has written, developed and became the greatest Russian poet of 20 century.

Comparisons are not valid. Different linguistic environment. Different weight categories of the authors. The originality of "abstruse poetry" - in manifestarnosti, no more. Options were much more interesting, for example, chernoknizhnye spells; windbag rhymes:

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Eni beni
faces of the packs
urbanization urbanization
Sinti breakpoints
deus deus
krasnodeus
Bacus

in this case, no claim to the title of poetry, might also have a guess that not all the verses (even the non-abstract) - Poetry.

Abstraction is (from abstract words) showed a failure explicitly to others' expressive gravity means. Counting on a phonetic word melody as an opportunity to awaken a certain associative array, leaning to the music, or call for help visual tools transformed into visual poetry.

But, despite his inability to "carry out a further boundless, they, nevertheless, pushed the literary language, and contributed to deeper penetration of the spoken language into poetry, and this extended her life.

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

You can imagine an abstract novel?
Yes you get bored reading it in the first half page.

That's right. But his writing and it makes no sense. Get the book, for example, in the Hungarian language, provided that it does not know and read (you can even out loud) - pleasure comparable.
BUT
compare abstract paintings with abstract poetry - to compare the fat content of milk with the length of the locomotive. Inadequacy of literary abstractions, is that the informativeness of the word lies in its meaning.

It is therefore reasonable to compare the painting with music, the more they have, contrary to your claims, a lot of similarities in anatomy and in the elements of perception. Terms: harmony, rhythm, composition, tone, range, etc. - Can be regarded as mere coincidence))).
In abstract painting, these similarities most pronounced, because there is no clear "image of something."

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

Between abstract painting and music, there is no similarity.
Abstract nothing shows, so he is so miserable from the point of art.
Melodic music - not in the abstract, the melody - SPECIFIC

As a certain combination of sounds creates a specific melody or some combination of patches of color creates a specific image. And not necessarily to a particular image was a picture of something specific.
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On the "ugly, which makes and ugly", consistent and appropriate.

Arabesque (picture number 1). I admit that this inscription (call it so) that means something, even admitting that the man who wrote it, something guided. But for me, not knowing how to read Arabic, it is - just abstract lines, do not reveal the essence of the message. Nevertheless, I am able to evaluate the image, and to perceive the aesthetic promise kalligrafista. And, for some reason, I admit that the line dashes and dots - not haphazardly sketched squiggles, and compositional elements are structured. Why? Probably because it is done convincingly.

When the plumber Kuzmich, looking at abstract painting, said that he, too, so can the left foot - readily believe, because for him it is, indeed, random color spots. In this case, certainly know what the right hand can not, because in this case, in addition to the extremities, preferably part of the head ... of the heart generally keep quiet.

When you say:
"... Abstract painting - a completely arbitrary and made without any legal combination of strokes ... some random spots on the canvas ... whimsy ... pure artistic tyranny"
I am somewhat at a loss. Get lost because:

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

... Every object in the picture - this is conditional
... What is depicted - it generally tenth.
... Anyway, that
... Matter how

yes and praise without Shishkin and Dali.

Several paraphrase your statements can be different accents:
trouble many in the social realism (surrealism can be) that they held a question that depicts, and the question of HOW (ie, the main issue), limited at best, a school. Probably because of Deineki - not a lot, and Doe - a dime a dozen. Those who were concerned about the main issue, inevitably slid into formalizm and abstraktsionizm.

In figurative, of course, have their extremes - explicit repetition, obsession ... (but it is rather a question for a specific author).
With regards to the huge number of random adepts of enlightened theoretical opus and tempted by the possibility of neglect of elementary school ... - as a rule, being involved in an imaginary permissiveness, they discover their clumsiness on the surface of the canvas. Non-figurative painting uses the same tools as the figurative, and without basic practical knowledge and talent - anywhere - is the case when a pointlessness can not hide (try to hide behind the subject, which is not)))).

Oppose the numerator "abstract" numerator "figurative" in the presence of a common denominator "painting" a bit strange. In my opinion the painting as a measurement of the plastic is so diverse and self-sufficient, which can be evaluated and taken on formal grounds.
 
Strictly speaking, you like apples of Cezanne (in this case you do not feel enthusiasm for the apple Doe) is not of great love for the fruit ... and not a perfect similarity with the original (not upset to discover that this is not an apple, and any quince) .
That is, do you assess the quality of picture and admit that the apple - is a kind of conditional form, interaction on the surface of the canvas with other forms through the composite, color, line ratios, and other joys inherent descriptiveness. I think the news that Cezanne forgot to attach a sacred essence of Adam's apple on your feelings, too, is not strongly affected.

Kandinsky and abstraction you do not like (I'm from, too many are not thrilled), it is for formal reasons, not for insulting Italian cuisine. So, the "bad cut tagliatelle and spaghetti," "some random spots on the canvas - it is rather a question of that; the issue of HOW - a well-cut spaghetti, and not arbitrary spots.
Assurances that the abstraction devoid of quality criteria alone, because not represent concrete objects - at least, questionable.

Other times, masterfully written by an academic landscape, somehow it leaves me cold, as any aimless kalyaka-malyaka clings; abstract composition number 999, complete with theoretical calculations, at best, do not worry .. but quite a figurative flower Yakovlev - turned inside out.
Obviously, there is something inexplicable, which allows the soul to worry, regardless of abstract art and figurativa.
Not correct to compare with the talented talentless?

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

In my opinion, any art - is always a dialogue with the viewer, reader, listener.
Abstract knowingly monologichen.

Not necessarily. Imagine that the artist (no abstractionist) colors, because he wanted it or nemozhetsya - he was himself a spectator. Or colors, implying some kind of abstract viewer is able to appreciate the work ... or even a concrete example for you. Only it does not mean that he will show it to you. Monologue and not turn into a dialogue with the audience, because you are in this case are needed as a tool.

? Never had to face in your painting practice so that at some point, do not you start to steer the image, and it is, well, if not you, then by itself, so much so that the original plan remain the only sweet memories, and finished work , surprisingly, turns out to be less consistent than that which is conceived, however, like her, only the size of the canvas? They say it happens. And this situation does not imply a spectator.

Сообщение от Igor Sasha

The main task of painting, wrote Clive Stipplz Lewis - a transfer of light.

Or condition, or mood, or feeling, or .. or .. or ...
In painting, there are no less noble objectives - for example, to feed a sick ego of the artist. ))) Painting - it is also personal experience.

Do not think that I am trying to contact you actively argue or intend to undermine your steadfastness. I just doubt it aloud. )) I and my cockroaches - the roof. I sometimes think that figurative painting at least, and perhaps more abstract than abstract.
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P.S. and that you - as a consolation prize (not "dyrbulschyl, of course, but still):

J. Satunovsky

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Yes, poetry, syntax,
but the order of rhyming
plays a significant role:
Awawa, Awawa,
and suddenly Abba!

__30 May 1976, Theodosia

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Guess what happens
after Bryantsev sklyunetsya,
and grebetnya pokochergaet hlyntsy?

  __5 April 1971

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... That is not Stravinsky, not Kandinsky
but in ourselves
space effect of a mismatch;
Yes, that's life. "

 __29 March 1971