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I-V 18.11.2010 01:28

Go to the author for authorship
 
You can often hear such an opinion: Thank God the author is alive, he-and confirm that it is his job!

But what if you are absolutely sure of the authorship of the artist (that is really his thing), but it lacks only the signature. And here you are in high spirits go to the author ... but he refuses to acknowledge that the work - it. Though you (and he!) know exactly what the author - he said.

How to be here? What should I do? And what could be the reasons for this, to put it mildly, an unpleasant situation?

Please tell us would be very grateful.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.11.2010 02:07

IV, such issues were already on the forum.

Here, he found a similar free.

I-V 18.11.2010 02:50

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1392521)
IV, were the questions already on the forum.


Thanks, Cyril!
That's it

Игорь Гурьев 18.11.2010 04:25

One of my friend bought at the flea market in Paris, still life, very much reminiscent of Picasso and was stupid enough to go to the heirs.

So.
Heiress poluvyskrebla with a knife signature Picasso still life.

I do not understand what relationship the heirs may have to the examination if they are not art, or have not lived with the author of much of his life, but people trust.

And that the heiress just could not know anything about Picasso still life of the century.

Артём 18.11.2010 10:46

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1392481)
And here you are in high spirits go to the author ...
but he refuses to acknowledge that the work - it.

There are options for more complicated when the author admits everything.
Old age!
And there is a terrible mess.

тандем 18.11.2010 10:55

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1392641)
One of my friend bought at the flea market in Paris, still life, very much reminiscent of Picasso and was stupid enough to go to the heirs.

So.
Heiress poluvyskrebla with a knife signature Picasso still life.

I do not understand what relationship the heirs may have to the examination if they are not art, or have not lived with the author of much of his life, but people trust.

And that the heiress just could not know anything about Picasso still life of the century.

 :eek: :D :D :D

I-V 19.11.2010 00:48

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1392801)
There are options for more complicated when the author admits everything. Old age! And there is a terrible mess.

Feel uneasy ... Frighteningly, this situation: you have a thing with a good story, the author is obvious (and it is that we should), there is only a signature, or it is completely unreadable. There are people who are ready for a good thing to take money, but ... the author of Live and you say: "confirms his authorship, and the trick is done: our thing - your money!" And then the fun begins: suppose you have neither the author nor the author you are not even close to know. And what if he gives you turned down (which is very likely)? And in the end? Buyers 'jump off' thing all drops out of circulation the originals, and your reputation is stained ... In my opinion, think a hundred times: whether to go with a friend the artist? And forgive me for the terrible thought, perhaps, be envied by the owners, whose authors have long since gone away to another world. Indeed, the attribution of experts are subject to change and the fact that yesterday was nothing today was all (and vice versa). But the verdict of the author, as a sentence: either yes (oh, if "yes!"), Or - not (and here the end of everything).

What to do? Thou shalt not, in fact, waiting for someone's death? It's crazy and wrong. But how to pass "examination" of the author, if he's alive (and may even be subject to capricious) is also unclear.

In general, I wonder: why do writers (including journalists) have no right to give up their words? We all know: that the pen is written - not cut down with an ax. Probably published (including web) texts and sound recordings under the name of a particular author - as a sort of a universal catalog, which by virtue of its publication becomes immutable proof of authorship.

What about the artists? That is written with a brush can not that cut and so, by clicking on drop ... Once, before the advent of DNA tests, man or woman could easily (slovesno!) to abandon their children. And all because the evidence base of science in this matter was still inconsistent. Something similar is happening so far in the art. Although, of course, the tragedy of real people who threw overboard the family can not be compared with the rejected author. Nevertheless, there remains no alternative but to wait in the art will be a "DNA test". In the meantime, it seems to me necessary to establish a base personal (just personal) sites of artists (including blogs), saving in archive Web pages hosted on these images of works . It's true, I think, a way to create an evidence base for the arts in order to avoid serious misunderstandings in the future.

In this regard, I propose: as much as to fill a new topic posted by me on the forum, entitled: Personal site of artist (section Artists)

Кирилл Сызранский 19.11.2010 00:59

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1394701)
let's say you are neither the author nor the author you are not even close to know.

Get to know what the problem is?

I-V 19.11.2010 01:08

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1394731)
met, what's the problem?


Happens: Friendship is friendship, but snuff apart

Кирилл Сызранский 19.11.2010 01:25

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1394741)
It happens like this: friendship is friendship, and snuff apart

I said, "get acquainted" and not "befriend".


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