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Fed 24.08.2010 10:16

Bulldozer Exhibition and 60-ki - a dissenting opinion
 
I read the recent "Bewitched" by Leonid Sergeev, artist and writer who worked with the sixties side by side in the illustration and theater. He has an interesting view of the eyewitness.
"In concluding essays on the workshops, I must say this: almost all artists have attics and basements (sometimes with a basketball court) and paid for this non-residential fund (with all conveniences) penny (only for electricity and gas) of such workshops western artists could only dream of.
It has been estimated in the West of a hundred artists breaks one, we make the way almost everything. In the West, not enough to be talented, you have to have "unwound" speculators, in whose hands the exhibition, advertising and so on. Everything depends on the artist himself.
And pay our artists properly (for example, illustrators much more than the authors of the text). And no one interferes with a person who can hold a brush, working in clubs, in the decoration plants. And as members of the Union and did live in clover: Houses of creativity, cheap materials, stores selling paintings. In fact, who believe the Sixties generation was not fully realized - hypocrite. What then to speak about the previous generation?
And to be honest to the end - "Bulldozer" exhibition and "Metropol" presented the weak things and frank PR. Ruben Varshamov said bluntly:
- Bulldozer Exhibition was a provocation. Organizers umatali abroad, and those who stayed, got it.
In fact, Westerners have been beneficial to inflate such actions, it is now clearer. Say what you like, and many of the formalists simply destroyers. Not by accident their leader Malevich, author of "Black Square", considered that "all Greek sculpture must be burnt in the crematorium." Well, so much more! Incidentally, the "black box", to which they pray formalist poet Igor Maznin described very accurately - "antiikonoy, a glorification of Satanism.
A few words about the emigrants. The fact remains: the absolute majority of them were not true Russian artists, and in our country lived not so bad (even better than many of us): have good apartments, studios, villas, cars, no shortage of orders and exhibited no less than the others (Grobman, Statsinsky, Daron, Cooperman, Kabakov, Bloch, Bliokh, Zaltsman, Zbarsky, unknown, and dozens of people). Talk about the fact that their excessively squeezed - lies. All were more or less the same situation. They just speculate on the "human rights". It's one thing to leave his homeland after the revolution of the seventeenth year, another - from the fact that exhibited less than desired, or you live in an apartment, and think that is worthy of the castle with a park. By the way, whoever is something presented himself here, and in the West is gone, and who relied on foreign recognition, have collapsed.
The truth is that these immigrants are not only hated by the authorities (we are all to be treated with contempt), they bid defiance to all the Russian people - some openly, others secretly. And the notion of "homeland" they simply did not care. Home, they thought any place where they lived quietly and peacefully. "

Posav 24.08.2010 10:26

For some selected was not bad "horse course" how to jump over the iron curtain and get to the allowance in NY.

NATA NOVA 24.08.2010 10:26


SAH 24.08.2010 11:13

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
The truth is that these immigrants are not only hated by the authorities (we have to be treated with contempt), they bid defiance to all the Russian people - some openly, others secretly. And the notion of "homeland" they simply did not care. Home, they thought any place where they lived quietly and peacefully. "

The author manipulates the concepts of "homeland" Russian people "in his words that get to live poorly and did not calm ;)
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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
It's one thing to leave his homeland after the revolution of the seventeenth year, another - from the fact that exhibited less than desired, or you live in an apartment, and think that is worthy of the castle with a park.

Leave the home - what a horrible idea. More and lock the park you want - whether the poor live in communal apartments, it does not, here is your destiny. :D

Konstantin 24.08.2010 11:59

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
It is estimated in the West of a hundred artists breaks one, we make the way almost all

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
And pay our artists properly

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
And no one interferes with a person who can hold a brush, working in clubs

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
By the way, "black box", to which they pray formalist poet Igor Maznin described very accurately - "antiikonoy, a glorification of satanic».

Why read this nonsense? Twice why they are placed? To laugh?
In the forum is full of discussions on this topic, read them for the start.

Fed 24.08.2010 12:11

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1243342)
Why should I read this nonsense?

I understand that it is about 60-x-70-ies, and then prevailing conditions.
  And if you isolate of Malevich, although he is mentioned, in addition, the definition - antiikona, ie anti-image, in my very precise formulation. Both technical and in determining fracture aesthetics.

Vladimir 24.08.2010 12:31

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243352)
I understand that it is about 60-x-70-ies, and then the prevailing conditions.

And what does this change? Historians have heard, always learn to pay attention to the source. It's not a life comfortably, and eventual implementation. You can read, as there was an exhibition of friendship, for enthusiasts, the pavilion Beekeeping etc.

LCR 24.08.2010 13:01

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1243192)
A few words about the emigrants. The fact remains: the absolute majority of them were not true Russian artists, and in our country lived not so bad (even better than many of us): have good apartments, studios, villas, cars, no shortage of orders and exhibited no less than the others


"Vobla!", As the French husband of one of my Russian friend, coming out of the kitchen with dried fish in his hand.

Just think, these "untrue Russian" artists lived "better us" :)

Yes, the envy of mankind, apparently indestructible: "My neighbor - a Jew, and every morning the milk drinks" (it's denunciations of Paris during the Occupation), or from the same opera:

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1243222)
For some selected was not bad "horse course" how to jump over the iron curtain and get to the allowance in NY


Konstantin 24.08.2010 13:08


Posav 24.08.2010 13:12

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 1243442)
"Vobla!"

, The envy of mankind, apparently indestructible: "My neighbor - a Jew, and every morning the milk drinks" (it's denunciations of Paris during the occupation), or from the same opera:

And why should I be jealous? I live in the EU and not betraying and blackening their homeland.
Simply describing the driving forces in social-arte. After all, it was a phenomenon in addition to the pure faith in the bright future of capitalism.


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