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Enotka 29.10.2008 23:37

Heritage Auction of Russian Art
 
Continuing the theme of American auctions. Slightly better than Trinity, but worse Shapiro:)


http://fineart.ha.com/common/search_...nSearch = true

Кирилл Сызранский 05.11.2008 00:01

http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_it...p;Lot_No=65207
Here's a masterpiece of both a masterpiece! MVNesterov astronauts managed to capture ...

Vladimir 05.11.2008 01:20

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 96656)
Here is a masterpiece of both a masterpiece! MVNesterov astronauts managed to capture ...

Aaaa ...:) I can not:) joke in pure form. Great prophecy:)

Allena 05.11.2008 12:22

Well, gentlemen, right! Perhaps the auction house experts sincerely believe that the Russian art, all artists - in a single copy: Nesterov - 1 pc. Benoit - 1 pc., Lansere - 1 pc. I say nothing about the artist by the name, for example, Sokolov ... : p

Прохожий 05.11.2008 13:35

But the most fascinating in this Lot - are the years of life of the artist and the year of creating the painting:)
That's nothing, I would say even small things. At artprice even more fun - there ezhli want to go to the page Kropivnitskogo - passed the slack on the homepage of a Gabrichevskogo - this, in their opinion, one and the same person. When I come to this sad fact came across - I think maybe in the history of what I do not know, and Kropyvnytskyi worked under the pseudonym Gabrichevsky ... But no, just a blunder they have occurred there. Come to only frankomyslyaschie artpraysovtsy so believed in Russia's largest resource portals same lyapy: ((though without mentioning the double surname, but it works ...)

Allena 05.11.2008 13:55

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At artprice even funnier

Alas, yes! But do not mistake only he who does nothing. The same artprays shovel as much information in such a short time, for that matter, and other reference portals, and the same artinvestment, the forum whom we talk with you, what should they say thank you, very much.
Another thing - auctions, which by definition do not have to be careless, and, frankly, just a shame, but you look at the same Nesterova, but at the same Sovkom, whose site such errors, which takes the horror.

Прохожий 05.11.2008 14:25

Allena, it seems to me that all the problems of this kind - they are not from negligence but from ignorance, from the fact that database (as in reference sites, and the auction houses) working people are absolutely certain qualifications. Here for example, if you look at the job offer on the site, the forum which we communicate, it becomes evident that the requirements are quite high: art, language, etc. ... look - interesting. However, about the rewards do not write anything, I think that it is small.
We Tyukhtin long hung an offer to work for 500-600 dollars (in Moscow:)) - and could raise questions about the bugs?
I strongly doubt that the person possessing the necessary knowledge, skills and experience will be engaged in such activities in such a funny money.

Konstantin 05.11.2008 15:12

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requirements are quite high: art, language, etc. ... look - interesting. However, about the rewards do not write anything, I think that it is small.
Anyone could come to the "Salon" (and many did so) and make sure the level of our employees. And look at the same time they looked hungry or not. A salary determines the market power can not force anyone, especially in Moscow.

Allena 05.11.2008 15:49

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Сообщение от passers-96925
, however, about the rewards do not write, I think that it is small.

Dear passerby! I think that just in this case "estimate upon request", which indicates what ?..:)

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Сообщение от passers-96925
all the problems of this kind - they are not from negligence but from ignorance

Here do not agree. I know first hand and from photographs of the case where a very decent picture of a Moscow museum one of the first names of Russian avant-garde a few months (!) Until the exhibition was hung upside down. On this show there were publications, photographs, there were many art historians, experts, etc. In other words, the audience was exceptionally knowledgeable. Moreover, when a few months after the show I worked on the order of this museum, I had to find out what really should hang this picture. I went to two specialists (no kidding, this is the "correct" experts), they made inquiries, saw blade itself, and it turned out that both called me one day - in fact, within 10 minutes. Versions of them were the exact opposite, and with reference to the same authoritative scholar. As it turned out, the experts to bolster their own point of view appealed to the works of authority (written at different times), who eventually changed his view on the picture. In a word, and knowledgeable people are wrong, and how.
But I hold my opinion that the reference sites - a useful thing, and I assure you: if not for the professionalism of the staff reference sites, all the errors of this type of auction, as Nesterov with the astronauts, would have remained uncorrected ...

Vladimir 05.11.2008 22:21

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 97036)
, all errors of this type of auction, as the Nesterov with the astronauts, would have remained uncorrected ...

reminded of that at Sotheby's, until recently, the year of death was listed Krasnopevtsev 1955 . A majority of sold works were created after the "death". Generally, whether or not to dramatize such things? I, for example, the case of the astronaut from the author's vision of the lad Bartholomew only amused. Like any ridiculous clause. I remember in my youth wrote in the article, as producers prick buyers storage, transferring megabytes in gigabaty to "rate" 1 GB=1000 MB (actually 1024). And he made a footnote: Like, everyone knows that in 1 Gigabayte still 1024 kilobytes (instead of 1024 megabytes - as in reality). So what? The magazine came out (of all the Russias coverage, a large subscription) with such "revelations" on the entire country. Well colleagues clapped on the shoulder, laughed together.

Build interpolation from a reservation in the direction of the competence of the editors - an obvious stretch.


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