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наследник 20.05.2010 02:16

The Image
 
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I do not like to sell.
But it.
22h18h2 see
Help with the CPI.

U_Z 21.05.2010 01:28

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Сообщение от "heir 1111651
Help with the CPI.

To start enlighten the icon. Leak was not written by the icon painter and artist (see photo 2), in my opinion. And recently

sur 21.05.2010 01:35

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 1113642)
Lick did not write the icon painter, and artist (see photo 2)

 But unlike an ordinary painting. Tomorrow I'll ask that someone much more aware.

 In its iconography, a special technique. In another passed the shade.


 You must highlight of the outbreak.

 Yes, I was told that non-canonical picture, drawn not by the laws of icon painting, and painting can be (considered) an icon, if you were sanctified.

наследник 21.05.2010 02:04

I am grateful to you for your interest.
But it's really an icon, written, indeed, an artist.
And not rural Bogomazov.
Most likely, the St. Petersburg workshop of painter.
 
Nimba this recension is not provided.
The icon is quite old - craquelure, potemnevschy lacquer.

This way, if you remember, was always on the banners of the Russian army.

... Then the Lord asked him to bring water and ubrus (paper towel). He washed his face, wiped his ubrusom, and it impressed by His divine face. (c)

So she called the "Holy Face image ..." because the face of Christ imprinted on the towel.
With a fairly skilled house painter and reflected in tempera on levkas .:)

I am very interested members of the forum opinion on its value.
Estimator of me ...:shy:

Adulter_com 21.05.2010 10:26

miraculous image in the crown of thorns. Private 19 vek.maslo. to date within the $ 300-400 if you're lucky

наследник 21.05.2010 12:12

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Сообщение от sur (Сообщение 1113662)
You probably glare from the flash.

No, the photo was taken in daylight.

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Сообщение от Adulter_com (Сообщение 1113972)
miraculous image in the crown of thorns. Private 19 vek.maslo. to date within the $ 300-400 if you're lucky

As for the 19 th century ... I think that still later - turn of the century.

gans 21.05.2010 18:48

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Сообщение от "heir 1113691
Nimba this recension is not provided.

All the same, provided a <!--~ ~-->, even photos can be seen that the halo is.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.05.2010 19:06

Rather, a crown of thorns so atypical for this recension in the tradition of Russian icon painting.
In Western iconography, yes, there are crown of thorns on the head of the Savior. "Veronica"-so in the Western tradition the name of this recension.

наследник 21.05.2010 23:50

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 1114542)
Still provided <!--~ a ~-->, even photos can be seen that there is a halo.

I agree with you, if understood by the halo of that circle, which is around the head of Christ.
Your comments are quite thin, as many understand by almost a halo around his head pan .:)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1114572)
Rather, a crown of thorns so atypical for this recension in the tradition of Russian icon painting.
In Western iconography, yes, there is a crown of thorns on the head of the Savior. "Veronica", so in the Western tradition the name of this recension.

Yes, for me it also clarifies that bad - a crown of thorns to Calvary. Moreover, in everyday situations such as wiping the face with a towel .:)

Кирилл Сызранский 22.05.2010 00:04

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Сообщение от "heir 1115211
Yes, for me it's too bad clarifies that - a crown of thorns to Calvary.

No, western Veronica came just in time for the way to Calvary.
But in the eastern tradition miraculous Ubruz-Mandilion precisely captured specifically for the king of Edessa Avgar after he sent an artist could not portray Christ: Christ washed his face, he wiped it with a towel (ubrusom) where and imprint, and handed it to the artist . And, according to legend, this Urzuz (in Greek Mandilion) became the first in the history icon. Here is the image our Russian icon painters, and wrote, and Western-with a crown of thorns.


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