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Черномашенцев Владимир 29.04.2010 14:49

Photography (photography), art (painting)
 
Photography (photography), art (painting) - fairly simple matter. While seemingly simple, no doubt, other such topics, receive information about which it would be so difficult.
Of course, if you are talking about a professional capacity, decent offset printing. And not about the photo-report of tourists from the Louvre or the Hermitage. There's something just so simple - know, Click!

I am interested in professional photography, which results in frames, suitable for print catalog or posting on the site. If a small graphic works all quite simple - Know Succeed luggage on the scanner! then photographing medium and large format painting has a one unpleasant feature. The light gives light on the surface of oil paint or varnish, which cover some of the pictures. And if the photo subject is often a beautiful highlight the main task Photographers, for reproduction of painting the main task - to get rid of glare that hide part of the image made by the artist. The Light need, but light also creates a major problem .:confused:
  
Naturally, before the photographer are other problems: the second largest will name the most natural color dyes. No embellishment, no simplification has nothing suitable - must be 100%copy the picture. :mad:

The third problem: to convey the texture of the canvas, impasto paint, the shape of the stroke, without compromising with the general perception of the computer image. Very flat, pressed the result does not fit perfectly. :eek:


There are issues and techniques:

Which digital camera is preferable?
Is the SLR with Crop-matrix for a reasonable outcome?
What type of lens should I use?
What kind of light you want to create?

I hope that this topic may be of interest by artists, collectors, and even art dealers.

Евгений 29.04.2010 15:07

How best to photograph the picture?
 
Interesting information from the website: Art gallery .... :

General recommendations:

1.Semku should be carried out with a tripod. You can use any photo or video tripod.

2.When a tripod must use the "timer". For those who do not know: "Self-timer" - is a camera mode when the camera photographs at once, but after a few seconds after you press the shutter button. So Prevent disabling shots from shaking your hands and thus blurring the pictures.

3.Pered how to shoot, opt out of date and time at the camera. Strangely enough, but such mistakes occur quite often.

4.Fotoapparat must be exactly in the center of the picture and always strictly perpendicular to the surface of the painting. Otherwise, the picture becomes a trapezoid.
Read more (most useful): http://www.arthit.ru/useful/to-make-photo-r.html

Posav 29.04.2010 15:32

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simple version

Черномашенцев Владимир 29.04.2010 15:59

Yeah. A simple option? Try it - will be discouraged.

The first thing I saw in the network - exactly the text that you quoted Eugene. Start. Education must start from scratch. This text - useful information on the very first stage, more precisely at zero. Well, let's start with the basics.
The point is that with these recommendations, we did not go very far from amateur photography in the Louvre or the Hermitage, which I have already written. This method is suitable for small mat work. But try to remove the picture more than a meter in length and a half?
It will be very discouraged.

I am fond of collecting paintings by contemporary Russian and foreign artists. Gradually the hobby developed into something more professional, if judged according to my costs. It took a collection and make a directory site. I tried to shoot first with natural light, but came to the conclusion that the glare from the window is inevitable in the glossy surface of oil paint. Pretty well on the street on a cloudy day, or at a certain position of the sun. But I had to catch the condition. Also, in winter on the street paintings are not we walked. And even in summer wear here and there dozens of small and large works - inconvenient and even dangerous.

After the first experiments, I came to the conclusion that it is necessary first to resolve the issue to light. I bought a set of pulsed light studio Raylab of 200 J, complete with a 60x60 softbox and also picked up a white umbrella at the reflection of 110 cm can buy something else, but this set was one of the most inexpensive, also sold in the photo- store near my house. Very successful acquisition was a tripod Manfrotto 055XPROB, who can quickly and reliably to have a vertical rack parallel to the ground at a distance from the central axis of the tripod. Often, that's more convenient to rent small paintings or drawings - putting them on the floor, rather than installing on an easel.

But .... :confused:

Experiments with pulse bursts showed that despite the softbox, large patches remain. I am this way and tried to arrange the light, but realized that I had to learn. Before creating this theme, I prolopatil photoforum all, search engines and leafed through books. But he found nothing to the point, except everywhere repeated advice to "dummies" as a "soap box" to remove the picture.

BAGIRA 29.04.2010 16:05

Good topic. Two lamps on either side of 1000 watts with a curtain at a distance (depending on the size of the picture) at an angle of 45-60 degrees from the picture. We did so on the Filmstrip. When the umbrellas when not.

Черномашенцев Владимир 29.04.2010 16:25

Thanks for the information.

Cons:

1) A large and constant consumption.

2) Change the colors of the painting in the photo. This is explained by the fact that incandescent lamps have a yellowish emission spectrum with a color temperature of approximately 2700-2800 degrees Kelvin (there is such a term). For comparison, the source of natural light - the star called the sun - provides light at a color temperature of 6000 degrees Kelvin. I do not remember, but a strong difference exists. In support of my thesis I will say that any artist understands the difference in the work with natural and artificial light.
This is not a problem for black and white photography. Also, change the color is not important for the Soviet example, when the quality of printing has been awful. In Soviet printing color still changed beyond recognition.

3) And most importantly, all the recommendations for Dummies "are advised to withstand an angle of approximately 45 degrees. In my experience, this angle is only under certain conditions. And is associated with the size of the picture, or rather its width. If you take a picture of a small size - this advice is good, but it is worth to cross for a meter or two ....

So, do not guessed! :confused: Make-quality images that can be attributed to the printers will not work.

spigo 29.04.2010 16:37

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1065252)
2) Change the colors of the painting in the photo.

You have the function "White Balance" use? This feature allows you to correctly render colors regardless of the light shift.

Grigory 29.04.2010 16:58

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1065252)
Change the colors of the painting to photography

For exact color around the picture fix the color chart and pictures of them together. And the computer bring to mind the color on this model (assuming kallibrovannogo monitor).
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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 1065252)
In Soviet printing color still changed beyond recognition.

You're wrong! Print this could very well not everywhere, of course ...

spigo 29.04.2010 17:04

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Сообщение от Grigory (Сообщение 1065382)
For exact color around the picture fix color chart

That's very cunning. I usually matured to a picture of a white sheet, "click" it, then once the picture, then the color turns out! 00%and computer debugging is not required.

Евгений 29.04.2010 19:26

One of the best experts on the problems of photographing paintings (on the forum) is Alexander nickname Amateur wait for it, you may notice a theme, write a few professional advice ..


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