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Маруся 26.04.2010 16:58

The auction is over - long live auction! Your opinion?
 
In general, it is no secret that any, the most beautiful idea, we can "correct" in many ways the organizational, information, etc.
I am pleased that the auction ended with no worse than the other auctions in Moscow (%of sales). Maybe I would like more, but even the fact that it took place, thanks to LCR, - already very good.
Based on the observations that are genuinely surprised - is that some participants did not hesitate to bid in the 1 /2 and even in 1 /3 of the stated starting price.
Lord! This was an auction for the victims of the terrorist attack in Moscow, not in favor of the poor collectors and dealers!
Do not belittle the purpose of the auction, and to embarrass those who gratuitously offered at auction work at the prices in most cases, below the market.

Самвел 26.04.2010 18:28

And what better to sell at a lower price, or markups below does not sell? In this case, the simple answer I have. I propose to set prices very low, I think the auction proschel would be more interesting, and almost all would sell.

Маруся 26.04.2010 20:58

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1057442)
And what better to sell at a lower price, or the markups below does not sell?

Question moot ...
The prices were too low for most of the works. And not only the artists but also their heirs, and galleries, representing the work. I think all the auction participants started from the charitable purposes.
But in all required measure. What you suggested - more like a dumping and chaos. Paraphrase one participant of the conference or you waited for that you will sell the Van Gogh of 1000 rubles? "
Although, for the little-known artists, perhaps, an opportunity to declare itself on the auction means more than the estimated price. But then - this is their mistake. Probably, it cost them to listen to your advice and install other starting price ...

Peter 26.04.2010 21:22

Lack of connection with the prices occurred because of the unpredictability of pokupatelya.Auktsion was among his good lyudey.Znal to advance, would give a simpler picture and put it in 1000 rubles .<!--~ a ~-->. Nevertheless charity auction sostoyalsya.Ya I think that it brought together many lyudey.Nadeyus that in future such auctions on AI will be able to provide the necessary targeted assistance.

Самвел 26.04.2010 22:14

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 1057632)
What you suggested - more like a dumping and chaos

I do not agree, low prices, would have contributed to the bet, the excitement and the game would be raising their prices to reasonable levels. Comment, markups below should not be, since (I vnimmatelno watched the auction), they nearly destroyed the entire auction. The administration even though belatedly, but to remove them. While the auction was a charity, the passions were no laughing matter.

Маруся 26.04.2010 22:23

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1057792)
I do not agree, the low prices have contributed to-be part of the bet, the excitement and the game would be raising their prices to reasonable levels.

And I do not agree: at some artists who participated in the auction already has not only reasonable, but the market price level. And it is not part of the bet, no excitement, no other emotional considerations are not able to change.
Others their views I have expressed above.

Peter 26.04.2010 22:36

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 1057812)
And I do not agree: at some artists who participated in the auction already has not only reasonable, but the market price level. And it is not part of the bet, no excitement, no other emotional considerations are not able to change.
Others their views I have expressed above.

Here he had to go two ways, either to anonymous auction startyvymi low prices, where all the work without signatures. involving as wide a auditorii.Libo as it was, but with additional names and big buyers in the form of banks, funds, etc.

Самвел 26.04.2010 22:44

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 1057812)
How do you think would say Tseretelli if he knew that his work, albeit at a charity auction, displayed for 1000 now?

I reported this markups below do not ask dumayu.Mozhno him directly, I think he was, would not mind.

Маруся 26.04.2010 22:50

Peter, with all due respect ...
We have a theme among the thankful appeared Docent. One of those to whom paid my first message. (He did not thank me).
Maybe ask him, if possible, an explanation ...

Konstantin 26.04.2010 23:05

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This was an auction to benefit victims of the terrorist act in Moscow, and not in favor of the poor collectors and dealers!
It was not so sure. Charity was in the range up to 5000 rubles. (Photos as it is strange at first glance) and three large 30 tons 25 tons and 20 tons Everything else was sufficiently progmatichny nature, people bought pictures, but not engaged in charity, so do not bid before, so as not to inflate the price and in the last half hour and even minute. We had to rate cuts at the pictures in the middle of the week, it became clear that they will wait until the last, to buy just for pennies. But now went postauktsionnaya trade, what could we do not expect.


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