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KaterinaMN 15.04.2010 20:03

Our contemporaries: Whose learning?
 
Up to - and realized that I myself this question until the answer.
and decided to ask you all: do you think - any of our contemporaries is to learn? and if more accurately - to whom the Moscow \\ St. Petersburg artists should try to get into the studio and why them?

Received obtain more specific question - so there was no ambiguity: to whom you would go to learn and why?

NATA NOVA 15.04.2010 20:12

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1039982)
anyone learn?

KaterinaMN, it all depends on what you want to achieve ..

KaterinaMN 15.04.2010 20:38

NATA NOVA,
I did not quite ask this council to me directly, rather I am interested in choice, which would have made forum users and why they would have made it. I am interested in the criteria. and can be - no one in ready to learn from their contemporaries. I do not know. But I wonder.

so to say - I thought to myself, could not answer, so I asked others.

about me: I still can not name anyone. and there are at least two reasons:
1) I do not know too well by contemporary Russian artists
2) I almost anyone not personally acquainted
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For example - I shaposhno familiar with Eugene Antipov, and as a poet and as an artist - (it was here recently wrote) - it is my friends in LJ - but now he has, I just, is not ready to learn. different temperament. a different approach - if not deeper. while reading it - very interesting.
I happen to know a little and Victor Tikhomirov - and again - my feelings - I am happy to listen, watch. but until that is all.

Евгений 15.04.2010 20:44

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1039982)
to someone from the Moscow \\\\ St. Petersburg artists should try to get into the studio

I personally would like Tatyana Nazarenko, a real master, one of the most talented in Russia ..
Website artist: http://www.nazarenko-art.ru/russian/

Артём 15.04.2010 20:46

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1039982)
our contemporaries: Whose learning?

First, those who know how to draw, as we shall see.
First, learn to draw and paint like the old masters, then you can do what you want - all you will respect.
Do not relinquish their own vision, their manners and their perceptions: they'll come in handy if you become an artist.
If you're one of those who think contemporary art surpassed Vermeer and Raphael, put this book down and remained in blissful idiocy.

     Salvador Dali

Here is an example of modern Moscow teachers.

KaterinaMN 15.04.2010 21:07

Artem,
You might miniatures teachers (by the way - and where the names? Links? It all Stein - if properly made out or not?), But I still ask about the artists. I think that the teacher - not the same artist as the artist is not equal to the teacher.

I'm not so much asking advice on who to me personally to go to study :))) much as I want to know, that's you, for example - if studied - who would go and why? that you appreciate? and who can help to this general approach? maybe - no one can :)

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Yes: I did not intend to argue that the study skills drawing - is necessary and important. exactly the same - like working with paints \\ pastels \\ watercolors - and so it's all to the basics of skill - and argue about this - well, if not silly, strange. and Daly will not argue - though I do not like his paintings. - I'm just on another :)

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1040092)
I personally would like Tatyana Nazarenko, the true Master, one of the most talented in Russia ..

started to consider - but a little more you try: to be exact - what you admire her? I do not know - color? Psychology? choice of subjects? .... something else could be? her portrait or landscape?

Артём 15.04.2010 21:20

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1040122)
and who can to help this general approach?

KaterinaMN - none. Only you. I wrote about the study. Images of Vladimir and Vitali Shvedula Stein. For me - very talented people. We must learn from the talent.

Евгений 15.04.2010 21:37

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1040122)
what you admire her?

Talent and professionalism.

15.04.2010 21:41

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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1039982)
any of our contemporaries is to learn? and if more accurately - to whom the Moscow \\ St. Petersburg artists should try to get into the studio and why them?

 
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Сообщение от KaterinaMN (Сообщение 1040122)
I'm not so much asking advice on who to me personally to go to study)) as I want to know, here you are, for example - if studied - who would go and why? that you appreciate? and who can help to this general approach? maybe - no one can

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Yes: I did not intend to argue that the study skills drawing - is necessary and important. exactly the same - like working with paints \\ pastels \\ watercolors - and so it's all to the basics of skill - and argue about this - well, if not silly, strange. and Daly will not argue - though I do not like his paintings. - I'm just on the other

..... And Dali will not argue.
Well, thank God, but it is scary for him was ....
Are you an artist? And education is the art?
That's me in the fact that he chose the profession and the creator has a special education should be aware of what he lacks to become an artist, what should be emphasized.
For this and idui to metram.Muzykant - put his hand, the singer's voice, breathing, actor - performing arts, etc. and etc..
But you something unintelligible ... "I'm just about another" - what? It is not clear.
It seems that talking about things you do not know.

KaterinaMN 15.04.2010 22:34

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 1040172)
..... and Dali will not argue.
Well, thank God, but it is scary for him was ....

Too bad you were afraid of Dali :) with it all and very long - very good :) How you had not frightened, as I had not argued :) "I just do not love him. My personal point of view. And then - that he was a talent, genius, and says absolutely the right thing - so this only a fool would argue.


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Are you an artist?
Yes.

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and the formation of art is?
I have no special, I have no higher art education. and a diploma - no :) "Well, neither whatsoever. and?

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That's me to the fact that he chose a profession and the creator has a special education should be aware of what he lacks to become an artist, what should be emphasized.
And who can argue? Yes. exactly.

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Have you something unintelligible ... "I'm just on the other" - what? It is not clear.
It seems that talking about what you do not know.
read my first post: I ask you: have any of our contemporaries and fellow countrymen you personally would like to study and why you would like to learn it from him. or - in general none. and you think that among our contemporaries and compatriots for you personally do not have teachers. in my opinion - because it is extremely concrete question.


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