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яков 01.02.2010 14:20

Help please deal with authorship
 
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In the first three photos - oil on canvas. 53 - 53 Moscow · stretcher can be ignored, the picture was on the cardboard, and then peretyanuta.Esli assume that the signature was - S. VANIER. - That fits - Simon Claude (Vanier) Abramovitsch (French, 1903-1953). In the photo 4,5 - works of this artist, and even discern the signature, the same flat, printed bukvy.Na Ask-ART - where I have paid for access - all work and no two biografii.Na some sites, write the country - Rossiya.Voobschem wanted to know who the artist and could he be the author of this picture?. Maybe there will be other assumptions on authorship.

The lower photo - oil on canvas. 36 - 50 sm.Voobsche can not read the signature. THANKS in advance!

Wladzislaw 01.02.2010 18:26

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 884142)
At the bottom photo - oil on canvas. 36 - 50 sm.Voobsche can not read the signature. THANKS in advance!

Is not the first word, ie, the name - João?

яков 01.02.2010 18:51

Wladzislaw, First and last name begin with the same letters, I think, that artists with names JOAO - but names beginning with other letters;
Joao Bez Batti 1940
Joao Batista Bordon Brazil 1882 1917
Joao De Brito California /Portugal 1958
Joao Camara Filho Brazil 1944
Joao Fragoso Portugal 1913 2000
Joao Pedroso Portugal 1825 1890
Joao Augusto Ribeiro Portugal 1860 1932
Joao da Silva

Amateur 01.02.2010 20:09

Вложений: 2
Second - Czech artist Jiri Herzhman (Jiří Heřman 1892 - 1969).

яков 01.02.2010 20:35

Amateur, - you are simply genius! how you do it?, just what tricks to.Dumal this picture will remain for me to look zagadkoy.S'll wait, if possible, the verdict on the second rabote.Ogromnoe thanks!

ABC 01.02.2010 20:56

Amateur, you really know how to surprise. Hats off :)

Amateur 02.02.2010 17:56

Вложений: 3
As for your first author, yak. Look what happens when comparing the signatures (see 1). In the signature on your picture between the "VA" and "R" placed only two letters of the same size, even for the "I" there is no room. Also, this Vanier-Abramovich signed without the middle initial "S.": see 2 and 3 (this is like yours, but more, there is a signature can be seen better). So, apparently, you do not have Simon Claude Vanier, alas ...

яков 02.02.2010 18:28

Amateur, a huge Thank you! - Have helped me already in that raz.Menya same initials S confused initially, but thought there may be little variety of signatures. [Actually probably just really wanted, what would it was Simon]. And all the same интерестно who this Simon Claude Vanier? why he Abramovich? and why some sites listed as a Russian? If in the process of "decoding" of letters that either learned - share pozhaluysta.Esche again thank you for your help.

Amateur 02.02.2010 19:10

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Сообщение от yaks (Сообщение 887132)
why he Abramovich? and why some sites listed as a Russian? If in the process of "decoding" of letters that either learned - share pozhaluysta.Esche again thank you for your help.

No, nothing specific about this artist I was not caught. But I was looking for a short time and watched, mostly pictures, the texts are not immersed.

Артём 02.02.2010 22:50

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Сообщение от ABC (Сообщение 885272)
Amateur, you really know how to surprise.

Amateur - in the translation of an amateur. What kind of lover you are - you are a pro!


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