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bykinist 19.01.2010 21:16

A. Zverev, "Roses"
 
Вложений: 1
Stand at the court of public opinion (double 2).
Opinion Spigo I already know, so would ask him to refrain from commenting at least for some time, so as not to influence the verdicts of others. Such an experiment.
Roses - 50x35, canvas /oil, 198 (?)
Price: $ 7,000

+79262463243

P.S. I can not understand that with the year? lonely incomprehensible "eight"?

Сергей Кит 19.01.2010 21:54

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Сообщение от bykinist (Сообщение 862542)
Such an experiment.

What experimental rabbits here in the forum? Or you spend the exam? Forum provides a unique opportunity to hear the opinions of respected experts, who note for free, will help clarify many questions about the authorship, quality, pricing, etc. Why do you think that this is not entirely correct.

Кирилл Сызранский 19.01.2010 22:14

And I now think that everything is normal.
bykinist exhibited this work in sales, said the price, he asked to speak and he himself had doubts about the "lonely incomprehensible" Eight ".
Itself as it is substituted, "brings to the court of public opinion."
Oh boldly for sure.

Сергей Кит 19.01.2010 22:30

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 862612)
And I now think that everything is fine.

Quite possibly, but then without a word of the experiment, at first I was prejudiced against the opinion of some forumchan, but it turned out that the opinion is often based on profound knowledge to material, history, and now am to the forum, as an assistant in some areas as a specialist or something you trust.

ФАИв 19.01.2010 23:57

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Сообщение от bykinist (Сообщение 862542)
P.S. I can not understand that with the year? lonely incomprehensible "eight "??

Maybe 1983. As the trio and the letter "Z" graphically identical Zverev often in 83 year to the Group of Eight did not add three, because AZ

Vladimir 20.01.2010 00:44

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Сообщение от FAIv (Сообщение 862742)
Maybe in 1983. As the trio and the letter "Z" graphically identical Zverev often in 83 year to the Group of Eight did not add three, because AZ

To the right of the red eight guessed white trio. 83

bykinist 20.01.2010 10:55

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Сообщение от Sergey Keith (Сообщение 862582)
And that experimental rabbits here in the forum? Or you spend the exam? Forum provides a unique opportunity to hear the opinions of respected experts, who note for free, will help clarify many questions about the authorship, quality, pricing, etc. Why do you think that this is not entirely correct.

They say that China is taking the rabbit.
Dear Sergey Kit, I hasten to explain why I used the word "experiment".
Seeing a strong reaction forumchan (concerning authenticity) to the announcement of the sale of a female portrait Zvereva of Andy, and knowing that Spigo is an authority and expert on creativity Anatoly T., and furthermore already asking the opinion of Spigo in a private mode, I just wanted to hear the views of ordinary (not all) experts in our forum about his work, which in any case, I put up for sale and the "public trial" . That is, wanted to see how these people form their own opinions without reliance on the views of other, more reputable people. To state that the picture is bullshit easiest, especially if you already know that the artist is highly counterfeited. But to explain why you think so, not quite simple. I personally, in any case do not pretend that I can distinguish this from Zvereva fuflovogo for some stylistic features or artistic techniques. (NB I can look at the picture and say "yes, I like" or "yes, this sense the hand of the master, the more comparable with other, already confirmed by the works of the artist). So far, alas, no such experience. But with the help of several other factors - such as provenance or already successful sales of works from the same collection - I lean toward a particular conclusion. In short, as is the case.

Сергей Кит 20.01.2010 11:21

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Сообщение от bykinist (Сообщение 863012)
They say that China is taking the rabbit.

Well you, I'm not proud of, take on health, I am not a specialist on the pull, but meant it Spigo, he's really an expert in this matter, and Zverev other forum users are sent directly to him, there seemed to me that having , so to speak, at the hands of the verdict Spigo, you or him confiding or other ;)

bykinist 20.01.2010 11:32

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Сообщение от Sergey Keith (Сообщение 863062)
Well, you, I'm not proud of, take on health, I am not a specialist on the pull, but meant it Spigo, he's really an expert in this issue, and Zverev other forum users are sent directly to him, there seemed to me that having so to speak, at the hands of the verdict Spigo, you or a check or other <! -- - ~ 6 ~-->

I always listen to the opinion of others, the more authoritative, but I have an opinion.

Moreover, I do not understand how even the most authoritative expert, can uniquely (although they probably did not professionals claim to be, but those who listen to them, consciously or unconsciously, perceive it that way) to issue its verdict in the "remote" form not looking at the work alive, and not taking into account other factors (provenance etc. etc.)

... and even more so when it comes to such a "chaotic", "natural" artist, like a beast.

Сергей Кит 20.01.2010 11:56

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Сообщение от bykinist (Сообщение 862542)
agree Spigo I already know, so would ask him to refrain from commenting at least for some time, so as not to influence the verdicts of others. Such an experiment

Are you interested in the verdict of experts, which could affect the view Spgo?


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