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bob 28.12.2009 14:06

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They brought just such an icon. Kovcheg.21h17, 5cm. Whose school? Age? Price?

redbor 28.12.2009 18:28

Old Believer icons, 19 century. School no.
Province, possibly the Volga.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.12.2009 18:39

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 822212)
Oldritualist icon, 19 century

From dating agrees, but the Old Believers to the letter falls short, in my opinion, and simple, the faces of so simple "village"

mihailovoh 28.12.2009 19:20

bob,
A seed icon 19go.provintsialnaya zhivopis.rasprostranenny syuzhet.bolshoy values are not represented.

Деко 28.12.2009 22:58

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 822252)
The dating of the agreement, but to the "Old Believers" letter falls short, in my opinion, and simple, the faces so simple "village".

Cyril and Old Believer icons in principle, if not mistaken, are not a model of high letters. They are always written away from schools and centers of icon painting. Another thing, adhered to the canons of iconography.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.12.2009 23:08

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Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 822862)
if not mistaken, are not a model of high letters.

I think you are mistaken.

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Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 822862)
They are always written away from schools and centers of icon painting.

Never mind, branch, Nev'jansk and Syzran all already know very well, though not centers.
What centers? Some references in the literature. In the real market, there is no longer the icons with a strong school, and about the school could talk about the icons of the 16 th century. And later had what the school? Thus, regional centers ...

Деко 28.12.2009 23:49

I am not saying that these centers of the Old Believers are unknown. The point is that the Old Believers are inherently limited in opportunities to improve their writing. For development in any case necessary as it is now said to be creative communication. Features of Old Believers in this respect are not comparable with their counterparts from Solvichegodsk or the same in Moscow. Wealthy clients have the opportunity to invite the best, in their view, icon painters from a particular region. And the field has learned a new, takes over the new. In the end, the Byzantine icon painters taught our. Otherwise, what would we have at the source?
By the way, and the distinctive features of a school of icon painting largely erased because that's such migrations - the people of Pskov were riding in Tver, Novgorod people were invited to Moscow. And on the outskirts of vseda letter was simple - northern letter, for example.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.12.2009 00:04

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Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 822982)
The point is that the Old Believers are inherently limited in opportunities to improve their letter.

Why?
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Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 822982)
Rich, customers have the opportunity to invite the best, in their view, icon painters of this or that region.

Most customers were wealthy merchants of the Old Believers.
And by the way, the effect of Leskov's "The Sealed Angel" is happening in your city.

Деко 29.12.2009 00:20

Kyiv School in general is somewhat apart from the canonical Russian icon.
A rich Old Believers still invited to the Old Believers same. My message is simply that any closed society is doomed to decay.
Here, if we talk about the same Stroganovskoe letter. Many researchers Stroganov school does not consider itself in the usual sense. Ownership were Stroganoff, they invited to their best ikonopitsev from various regions, including Moscow. In fact, created a new center of icon painting. A classic example of how financial investment and create conditions for the work contributed to the creation of first-class masterpieces.
Of course, the Old Believers not to isolate themselves completely. We loved book icons in Palekh, Kholui. But still, "provincial" - largely about the Old Believers.

redbor 29.12.2009 00:31

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Сообщение от "Deco, 822,861
and Old Believer icons in principle, if not mistaken, are not model high letters.

Only the Old Believers remained canonical letter, when in 19 century" zhivopodobnuyu icon "written all - from rural Bogomazov to the capital's art-academics.
 And the quality of writing - what to say.
 Take the icon of the Old Believers Syzran Nevyansk, Podolia ...
 and compare it with the icons of the same time written in the official church.
The refinement of the letter, following the canon, a riot of color is the icon of the Old Believers.


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