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iside 23.12.2009 13:57

The artist and the viewer. The viewer gives good advice
 
All the good time of day!

Hmm, I have a question, the very understanding of this phenomenon can not :D

Husband wrote paintings, preparing for the exhibition, in a flat space allows and as long as it made a gallery in the great hall. Every day, come to different people, for associated with the exhibition, or people who are not associated with painting, people are different, all ages and nationalities.

But what amazes me, and why decided to write here. Virtually all of these people (95%) why some consider it their duty to give advice on topics of paintings, the selection of colors, size, etc. And give this advice when they do not even ask.

Someone with adds: "I'm certainly no expert, but here I think we should be ... Someone does not add, but with a serious face begins to talk.

The first few months, when the pictures were few, and this was the very beginning I was not paying attention to it. Then I had a period of stimulation and I answered with barbs. Now I have time, when such advice, I could hardly contain fits of laughter.

But there is something to laugh, because sometimes recommend that ... :D

Question artists: Did you face such audiences? how do you respond?

Question to all: this is normal when giving advice or is it better than the artist knows that he draw and how?

Thank in advance for your answers.

Кирилл Сызранский 23.12.2009 14:05

Sergei Mikhalkov
  
Elephant-painter.

Elephant-wrote the landscape painter,
But before sending it on opening day,
He invited friends to look at the canvas:
What if you suddenly could not it?
Attention artists, our honored guests!
What kind of criticism now heard it?
Would not it be cruel animal Court?
Overthrown? Or be raised?
Connoisseurs come. The picture elephant discovered
Who's got next, who came closer.
"Well, what - began crocodile --
Landscape good! But Neil, I do not see ... "
"What the Nile is not, in fact there is no great distress --
Said seal .- But where is the snow? Where is the ice? "
"Excuse me! - Surprised Mole .-
There are few things more important than ice!
Forgot garden artist.
"Oink-oink, - noticed Pig --
The picture was a success, friends!
But in terms of us, Pigs
Should be acorns on it. "
All requests received Elephant.
Again, he took over paint
And all our friends to the best of
Elephant brush lands,
Depicted snow and ice,
And Neil, and oak, and garden,
And even honey!
(In case you suddenly Bear
Will come now to look ...)
Picture of an elephant is ready,
Friends called an artist again.
Guests look at the landscape
And whispered: "Yeralash!"

My friend! not be such an elephant:
Council should, but with the mind!
At all friends not to please,
As only hurt himself.

Семен Семенович 23.12.2009 14:13

Cyril Syzransky, perhaps better not say ...

iside 23.12.2009 14:13

Cyril Syzransky, :D:D:D

I came up with this idea, not just listen to advice, and try to classify the audience. The idea was spontaneous, was born at a time when I started irritation - I ask the audience questions:

When you were last on the opening day?

One of the counselors asked me what vernissage :D

When did you last buy any now?

One zealous advisers said, why bother to buy the picture - no comments.

Well etc. God grant will summarize ever will summarize the results and put on the forum.

Семен Семенович 23.12.2009 14:21

iside, and you in response to try to give them advice how to sew clothes, split the atom, to manage the bank ..... or what they do. So you're even. But seriously, it is better to skip the exhibition amateur advise (or all) of work. If an artist feels that the work is not zavershina, then giving way to a wall and ... litsezreet again after some time. Fresh look better than the author no one will see ...

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The idea was spontaneous, was born at a time when I started irritation - I ask the audience questions:

And you put a coin box and write: One tip - $ 100.. Who would understand - just go deal with the case, but no - earn something ...

Seriy 23.12.2009 14:34

personally I am very interested spectator view, as if on e-t composition, color-all tale ... Alas, these visitors I have not seen ..- silent as a fish .. You can look out the theme "The Artist Seriy" I keep asking all the audience asking for advice ...
So you have to be thankful this audience, for these same pictures are written. And if everything makes the observation that in the movie have something to move something, most likely, with the composition is really a problem ... did right track made of concrete-that-thread moved to the head no one will come.
IMHO.

AlexanderG 23.12.2009 14:36

And you answered, try to give them advice how to sew clothes, split the atom, to manage the bank ..... or what they do. So you're even.

Eto kak iz knigi nepravil'nyh sovetov (zabyl avtora, no ochen 'smeshnaia). Druzei i klientov vy tak ne priobretiote, a tol'ko vseh raspugaete.
Esli uz pokazali, to vyslushaite, poblagodarite za sovet, a potom zamenite slovo zritel ', na slovo pokupatel' (klient), i poprosite ego predstavit 'etu kartinu v ego dome , ofise, dache i pr. Uvlekite ego etoi ideei, i. ....


But seriously, it is better to skip the exhibition amateur advise (or all) of work. If an artist feels that the work is not zavershina, then giving way to a wall and ... litsezreet again after some time. Fresh look better than the author no one will see ...

Soglasen sovershenno.

K-Maler 23.12.2009 14:38

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 811072)
) was a spontaneous idea, born at a time when I started irritation - I ask the audience questions:

 The idea is very good. Collect all the answers. If possible, record on tape, you can, together with a portrait. Postpone until one side, then the link, and let me go on opening day instead of music as the background ... get "kontemporari" ...

iside 23.12.2009 14:40

Semen Semenovich, :D

I am very interested to understand the causes of this phenomenon.

Here, for example, I do not consider myself an expert in the art, I like something, something not, without special knowledge and appropriate education, I can only judge the case, although at the moment, I am actively engaged in self-education, reading, go to the exhibition . I have never seen the painting, which I would have liked in general, but something I would have changed.

I wonder at what

Семен Семенович 23.12.2009 14:40

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Eto kak iz knigi nepravil'nyh sovetov (zabyl avtora, no ochen 'smeshnaia).

Grigory Oster: Bad advice. Book for naughty children and their parents.

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I have never seen the painting, which I would have liked in general, but something I would have changed.

And the more you learn, the less you want to change anything ...


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