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John Preston 16.09.2008 01:54

Kirsanov Mikhail Gerasimov
 
Hello!

Tell me, please, for the authenticity of this work.
It is proposed to be inexpensive, but there are doubts.
In the center of the picture and in the left corner of the blue brushstrokes of the sky in ultraviolet radiation shining black, the signature of such does not glow, but it turns out that its color is not from the palette of the picture.
On the back of some foreign label.
Size - 30,5 to 46,5 cm, oil on cardboard.
The seller said he bought it several years ago in an antique shop in Germany.

John Preston 17.09.2008 20:51

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Surely no one in the collection Kirsanov and difficult to say anything definite on the picture?

Евгений 18.09.2008 07:05

John Preston, picture art history expert, the more authenticity does not work opredelyayut.Obratites center ВХНРЦ im.I.E.Grabarya.

Konstantin 18.09.2008 09:42

John Preston

You want to hear?

If you look it up yourself sale on this site =757090 & m []=292000 & m []=272000"] http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/19670/records.html? & m []=757090 & m []=292000 & m []=272000
will see that trying to sell for $ 2000-6000 failed. Selling out for $ 1000. This means that with a slight interference fit can be assumed that the price range for this artist $ 500-3000 as any painting. Examination is worth $ 500-2500 in your case is not necessary.
The main thing - for what purpose you want to buy?
Possible answers
- Likes - potorguytes in the range of $ 500-1500 and take.
- To invest (in rachete growth) - not worth it.

John Preston 18.09.2008 19:52

Constantine, I would take it, but do not want to buy a fake. For this purpose, and started a discussion ...
What are the chances that this is the original?

SergeiSK 18.09.2008 20:20

Odd almost 100%, that is exactly Kirsanov, because not Aivazovsky, Repin, no, not Kandinsky ...

dedulya37 18.09.2008 20:27

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 57246)
this is Kirsanov, because not Aivazovsky, Repin, no, not Kandinsky ...

And you is John Preston, and not Billy Preston.: D

Konstantin 18.09.2008 20:36

John Preston

Цитата:

Constantine, I would take, but do not want to buy a fake. For this purpose, and started a discussion ...
What are the chances that this is the original?
I think Kirsanov is not the level to be forged.
You did not answer the reasons for purchase. If you like it not make any difference Kirsanov it or anyone else.

John Preston 18.09.2008 20:49

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 57336)
John Preston



I think Kirsanov is not the level to be forged.
You did not answer the reasons for purchase. If you like it does it matter Kirsanov it or anyone else.

Motive - partly an investment, for offering very cheap. A fake everything, that something worth something, I think to sign a picture of an unknown artist signature "Kirsanov" does not require large financial investments ...

Konstantin 18.09.2008 23:31

But this painting by an unknown artist, too, need to buy. This tazhe fork 500-3000 $. So? To sign and sell for tezhe money? Why?
P.S.
I am not familiar with the style of the artist as a rest, and even with ten thousand others, but looking at something that was offered to the Gelos and Sovkome is not very similar to your.


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