Help, please, with icons
 

Dear forum users,

Help please with icons, any information would be useful, including the approximate market value. At first (Virgin), I can say the following, supposedly someone who once wore this icon to the museum for the assessment and there they were told that the icon was expensive and that, allegedly, was written this icon once in a century or something like that . Put my photo with a salary and without. I wonder if someone can see on the edge of the board something like stigma and poorly visible name. There are two hallmarks of salaries, one bottom and one on the rim of the Virgin.
Regarding the second icon, then all that I could learn, so this is just what is St. Nicholas Mozhajskij. If someone can tell about the time of creation, I would be grateful. In any case, thank you in advance for any information.

More pictures http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt67/helsag/Ikon/

It is also useful information, though, about the size of icons.
 "Way" Smolensk Icon of the Virgin could be in the museum and leave.
 Salary silver 1851, but unfortunately, undermined in several places. (Painted чтоли?)
 The very image that appears - not the original, but was picked up under the salary is later.
About the image of St. Nicholas, called "Mozhajskij" - you might think
that not so long ago carefully painted in the children's circle drawing.

Picture seemed to me that the marks on the brass squeezed.

Smolenskaya apparently small size (18H15 or 22H18sm), and given the salary of a torn and broken corolla price hardly above 400d.Nikolay Mozhajskij too small and uninteresting to the letter, ser. 19 th century, at a price no higher than 80-100D.

Salary from Smolensk like brass. Even vskidku. I think at 400. ie - it is overkill.

I do not know it is brass or just very dirty .... Uncle in the attic he found it just became very interesting, what is it? And if you try to clean it? Or better not?

Thank you all great!

  So how should you still not clean, believe me, it is better not to take a salary from the gold, it you can "get away" with chistke.Gotov buy this "brass" salary 250d. (To make 150), if that .. :)

Thank you. I'm not really going to it on sale, but will be kept in mind if anything happens, I'll write to you in lichku. And you where you are? In Russia?

Yes, in Russia.

Thank you. If artificial, let you know in lichku. Thank you again for your help.