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AlexanderG 26.10.2009 06:15

The level of liquidity
 
Let's introduce a new factor "level of liquidity."
I propose to consider only the secondary market for at least ten years. Price order of $ 5,000
This can give a fairly accurate picture of liquidity. Let's discuss.

Translated into Russian is an evil administrator

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To Grigory Gromadnoe spasibo za perevod i perenos!

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Tema strashnaia, ia znaiu. Na moi vzgliad prodazi kartin ochen 'nemnogih hudoznikov budut v vyigryshnoi situatsii.

NATA NOVA 26.10.2009 13:18

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 661546)
To Admin Gromadnoe spasibo za perevod i perenos!

Incidentally, there is still such a transfer (more prog?) Write Latin. but it itself is translated Cyrillic .. (transliteration, perhaps?) Who knows, do not be lazy (although AA itself and not an altruist, so he says. but I do not believe him-)

Jasmin 26.10.2009 13:21

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 661546)
Na moi vzgliad prodazi kartin ochen 'nemnogih hudoznikov budut v vyigryshnoi situatsii.

And when the cakes at all enough?: D: D: D

NATA NOVA 26.10.2009 13:30

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 661546)
Let's introduce a new factor "level of liquidity."
I propose to consider only the secondary market for at least ten years. Price order of $ 5,000
This can give a fairly accurate picture of liquidity. Let's discuss.

Let utochneie:

For living or dead?
(intravital factor or what?)

Кирилл Сызранский 26.10.2009 13:37

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 661546)
The level of liquidity

Liquidity works of art is very low, so say ...
This is not the liquidity of shares, for example, where a single mouse click you can sell the shares to be anywhere: in Tahiti or in Syzran: D sold on American stock exchanges, gonkonskih etc.
Try once, quickly and well, selling landscape 19 th century Russian author of the second row. In Japan, for example, or in Australia . :)
Or in Moscow in the fashionable West. Europe Chinese contemporary author.
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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 661546)
only consider the secondary market

A modern Chinese are already in full at auctions are present, they are already in the secondary.

And now Imagine that you (pl.) any shares of Coca-Cola or BP. How do you with them will be able to leave her neatly at any time and at any venue.

AlexanderG 26.10.2009 13:54

Kirill, absoliutno s vami soglasen. Ia imenno ob etom neodnokratno pisal. Imenno etot faktor (odin iz mnogih) seriozno podryvaet osnovy investitsii v art.
Ne to, chto by ia govoriu, chto na arte nel'zia sdelat 'den'gi.: D

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 662126)
Let utochneie:

For living or dead?
(intravital factor or how?)

A eto bezrazlichno, my ze ne hudoznikami toguem. : D

Meister 26.10.2009 14:13

liquidity in the art - the opportunity to sell in the desired time frame for the desired money. As correctly pointed out, the faster you want to sell, so get ready for big discounts and vice versa - the more time, more chances to realize the desired price. Among other things this figure is affected by:
1. Uniqueness - the growth of quality and uniqueness of art is growing in proportion to the number of buyers. How do you understand the works of Rembrandt, El Greco, Filonov, Malevich to find a buyer for the desired price is easier than even the first-class works of Monet. Or consider the historic significance of the work - for example, it belonged to some famous person, or it displays an important event. This also affects the liquidity of work.
2. Size - large proizvedenieya (more than 1,5 x1, 5) as easy to sell, as well as very small (on 15x15).
3. The situation on the market - if there is demand for a particular artist, the probability of a quick sale of his work increases. If the artist is known, but so far "out of fashion," then sell it hard. As an example of Burliuk, which at the peak fly like hot cakes, then had a couple of years, not particularly in demand, and now again poluzetsya attention of buyers.
4. And, of course, the very theme of work - that it displays. Some people like landscapes, some abstract, etc.

In general, sales of work - is it a coincidence huge number of factors. But the main thing - it does not hurry.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.10.2009 14:15

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 662306)
But the main thing - it does not hurry.

Weapon antiquarian-patience.

Meister 26.10.2009 14:25

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 662326)
Weapon antiquarian-patience.

a gallerist, a contemporary art - a scandal, provocation, and gossip.

NATA NOVA 26.10.2009 14:25

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 662196)
A eto bezrazlichno, my ze ne hudoznikami toguem.

In our world of reporters' questions this time ... the same trade as prostitutes, and artists will soon (or already started?) .. Money do not smell ... (if not moral)

No, I do not care! "(Van Gogh to life in even a" list "would not have fallen ...


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