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gans 14.10.2009 14:43

Rating Collectors
 
Natalia Semenova.
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If you do not take into account the royal court and aristocracy, then collect in Russia began merchants. In the Soviet era in the nomination "collector" alternative was not available: the first and the only place was given to the PM Tretyakov, and the rest as it did not exist. Prior to 1990, writing about collectors are not allowed, the public was aware of the names of the Tretyakov and Bakhrushin, because they were preserved in the names of museums, sometimes referred to Morozov.

I propose a vote gatherers in chronological order. In Hamburg score I select pieces mixed. Brilliant collector "art of the future" SI Shchukin not go to any comparison with the PI Shchukin, or GA Simens, buy old consignment. Perhaps, for the purity of approach should be deleted from the list Petersburger Shuster, then the picture of the Moscow gathering would be complete.

History of the Moscow gathering, as once remarked Abram Efros, has a history of artistic taste. Domination of realism created PM Tretyakov, impressionism and cubism - SI Shchukin. And between them could fit all the other shades of Moscow collecting.
Pavel Mikhailovich Tretyakov (1832-1898)
Henry Afanasievich Simens (1836-1903)
Sergei Ivanovich Shchukin (1854-1936)
Ilya Semenovich Ostroukhov (1858-1929)
Ivan Abramovich Morozov (1871-1921)
Vikulovich Aleksey Morozov (1857-1934)
Peter Ivanovich Shchukin (1853-1912)
Alexey Bakhrushin (1865-1929)
Isaak Brodsky (1883-1939)
George Dionisyevich Kostaki (1913-1990)
Solomon Abramovich Shuster (1934-1995)

More here http://www.snob.ru/selected/entry/7569

Тютчев 14.10.2009 16:44

All - still not a complete list. Not missing a few important names.

qwerty 15.10.2009 11:32

Why do make such a rating? Indeed, in many cases, but today - just in the majority, not estimated the level of the collector, his erudition, intellect, passion for the subject, the ability to see and discover new, but simply the size of the state. I think if you compare, say, a collection of the late S. Ya, Feldstein (he was seventy years of collecting only the schedule of Russian artists, and a unique collection) or a striking collection of collections Chekrygin Grigorishin with millions of so-called collection Abramovich, the first two, as collectors in any ranking should be higher. Today in the preparation of any rating collector Abramovich automatically takes a leading place, and people like Feldstein, Sanovich, Dudakov, Levitin, Kronik in the best case will be mentioned at the very end.

Евгений 15.10.2009 11:45

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Сообщение от qwerty (Сообщение 646496)
Why do constitute such a rating?

Article called "10 most passionate collectors of Russia"
Meaning is a bit different ..

gans 15.10.2009 12:03

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Сообщение от qwerty (Сообщение 646496)
Why do constitute such a rating? Indeed, in many cases, but today - just in most, not estimated the level of the collector, his erudition, intellect, passion for the subject, the ability to see and to discover new, but simply the size of the state.

People with a large fortune, in many cases not tend to listen to the opinion of others, in that we often see many millions or not very many millions, but tasteless and powerless assembly. Not heard anything to Abramovich someone called a collector.
And this vote, of course, highly conditional, and for some people it may seem superficial, but I think that ratings are needed, at least for the fact that it had not forgotten the names of people who dedicated their lives to art, including those you mentioned.

fross 15.10.2009 17:26

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 645166)
All - still not a complete list. Not missing a few important names.

We are pleased to be venerated continued. It would be good with details, or even better with pictures.

Seriy 15.10.2009 22:05

Excellent article about Russian collectors.
  And at the same time resolved our dispute with Cyril Syzransky about Burliuk.
I have argued that the Russian Picasso repeated after a few years after the original, and Cyril doubt, because the Internet did not exist-schtkuda Russian could draw such an operational info. Turns Sergei Shchukin let artists to watch all of their acquisitions, which they immediately imitated.
Just Popov GTG well, just one in a Picasso-all-composition, color, theme, for me has always been clear-copy or a variation on ..
So I always thought, somehow, they still saw Picasso quickly ..

But Shchukin's time to put a monument. Or is he already there?

Аркадий 15.10.2009 22:43

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 646546)
People with a large fortune, in many cases, do not tend to listen to the opinion of others, in that we often see many millions, or not very many millions, but tasteless and powerless assembly. Not heard anything to Abramovich someone called a collector.

   Why? It is a kollektsioner.Denezhnyh bills ..: rolleyes: But there are people who are reasonably believed it simply a thief ..:)

nikolai nesterenko 16.10.2009 11:41

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 645166)
All - still not a complete list. Not missing a few important names.

eg. Elia Belutin

Маруся 16.10.2009 20:09

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Сообщение от qwerty (Сообщение 646496)
Why do constitute such a rating?

I think that we should not be rating, and catalogs of collections. Without it, can not talk about provenance - batovanii works. In the current situation with the expertise and attribution only known collection or the name and reputation kollektsioonera from the collection of which is the work, unless the family of the artist, can serve as a guarantee of authenticity.


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