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Albert 13.10.2009 11:01

Selling now Salomon van Reysdaela
 
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Selling now Salomon van Reysdaela (Salomon van RUISDAEL) - "Village" ( "Village") - 1640 - oil on wood - 40 x 56 cm

sergejnowo 13.10.2009 12:26

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original?
.......

work of this artist, like a lot of work 17 th century, are often not signed.
If the signature and the "fusion" stories price of his works not less than Ivan Shishkin.
As technology and coloring your work is not older than early 19 th century. (IMNO)
For comparison, three of the wizard, which judging by the sales price, pull the original.

sergejnowo 18.10.2009 17:13

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Albert, will bring the spacecraft shadow on the fence and he will answer to your same question.
The work you have an old, but not the hands of Salomon van Ruysdael.
Optical view the 19 th century, your work, gives the number of colors.
So "thick" in the 17 th century landscapes, as a rule, did not write. One thing made me go today in the Museum of Painting in Hamburg (Kunsthalle, Hamburg).
In the attribution for your work, a professor of art critic, wrote that the signing of your work on analigii with the work of Salomon van Ruysdael from a museum in Hamburg.
However, he points out the exact transcription signature "Ruisdael", that интерестно not a "y" and through "i". According to artprays as Salomon van Ruysdael did not sign, but since signing his nephew, - Jacob Isaaeksz van Ruisdael.
  And that Jacob Isaaeksz van Ruisdael, unlike his uncle, painted spare no paint - thick.
The Museum of Painting in Hamburg, three of Salomon van Ruysdael and still not signed.
And just two works by Jacob Isaaeksz van Ruisdael, one of them signed .
The signature on the work of Jacob Isaaeksz van Ruisdael, one by one, as in your work.
I do not understand one thing, how could your professor and art critic so wrong?
The price for the work of his uncle, on average five times than that of your nephew yet.

Go on the work of Jacob Isaaeksz van Ruisdael

Тютчев 13.09.2010 22:17

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 650276)
Price's uncle works in an average five times than that of your nephew yet.

It's time to deal with these Ruisdael once and for all. Landscape with a name like that in the 17 th century there were at least three. And they all relate. The oldest of them - Ruysdael, Solomon Jacobsz van 1600/1603 Naarden - 1670 Haarlem (Ruisdael, Solomon van Jacobs). His son-Ruisdael, Jacob Solomonsz van 1629/1630 Haarlem - 1681 Haarlem (Ruisdael, Jacob van Solomons). Nephew of Solomon Jacobs Ruysdael and cousin Jacob Ruisdael Solomons - Ruisdal, Jacob Isaacsz van 1628/1629 Harlem - 1682 Amsterdam (?) (Ruisdael, Jacob van Isacks).

sergejnowo, camym known of these is considered to be just Isaksen Jacob van Ruisdael, ie Solomon's nephew and cousin Jacob Ruisdael Solomons. And his work can in no way, as you claim, cost 5 times cheaper than the work of his uncle. In fact, the prices of the uncle and nephew are nearly identical, with a slight difference in favor of his nephew. Personally, I like the work and uncle, and of his nephew. Each of these artists has a recognizable style and deservedly one of the largest Dutch landscape 17 th century, along with Jan van Goyen, Albert Cape and Paul Potter. What can be said about the alleged Solomon van Ruisdael (son of Solomon, Jacob van Ruysdael), which was heavily influenced by his cousin. You probably looked at Artprayse prices for his work, which, indeed, much lower prices for the work of his father and cousin.

Игорь Гурьев 14.09.2010 01:34

Maybe Reystal, but unlikely.

sergejnowo 14.09.2010 08:30

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Сообщение от "Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1274491)
You've got to watch his nose and in the original, as well ...

well so look on work on walls museums, which essentially belong hand restorer.
And then you look at the pictures in the internet works that belong to hand restorer.
Then look at the prices artprayse seeing nature: the proportion of preserved hand of the master at work and actual work history.
And it turns out that the auction will probably not find out who his brother and who is the matchmaker and дуде игрец.
In total with reflections on the theme that the more the price of the two concepts of "brand" or "painting", falling asleep ....

PS
Tjutchev let it be true to you

dedulya37 14.09.2010 09:08

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 1274632)
Tjutchev let it be true to you


Right!

"Katz offered to surrender."
:)

K-Maler 14.09.2010 22:50

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1274491)
ut must bow to watch and in the original, as well ...

Nose should be regarded as written in the sky. All Ruisdael gave it special significance and wrote like. Especially Isaac, who was also the most philosophic. On this basis (and the character of the house and sticking to them the church) submitted to the landscape like the Solomon Ruysdael. Where three of the last similar landscape. In the other two the sky is written too rough, a little "duty" ...

sergejnowo 14.09.2010 23:37

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Сообщение от "K-Maler (Сообщение 1276301)
Nose should be regarded as written in the sky.

Solomon wrote on the boards with a very thin soil, or even without soil.
All up a single work, which I saw in museums and at auctions (here in mass attribution) had a marvelous specificity writing of the sky.
The drop of contrast of white clouds highlighted places narrow wedges, sometimes broad (several cm2) fields not shaded board (!)
And not infrequently, these are not shaded place so clean from any pigments or preservatives, which clearly discern the structure of the tree.
Unfortunately, especially the sky is not photographed, that's not entirely successful fragments with shared photos:

Игорь Гурьев 15.09.2010 02:05

Comrade Albert, see private message.


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