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vit 26.09.2009 12:07

Define, please, the price
 
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Ile de Philae (A.Vol.1 P 16l)
Engraving on copper. The sheet 71,5 h54, 5cm, the board 61h44sm
In good condition. Clone publisher Relief stamping (blindstamp) in the upper right corner. List of the section of the monumental edition of "Description of Egypt," documentary research "scientists" who accompanied the ambitious expedition of Napoleon Bonaparte in Egypt (1798-1801). Authors engraving Allais and Bigant. Full name, translated into English reads: "Description of Egypt, or the collection of observations and studies done in Egypt during the expedition of the French army." European demand for information about Egypt and its glorious monuments led to the publication of two editions of this work, with prints of one plate of the press; this sheet from the second edition.
Paris. Panckoucke. Ca 1820.
Your opinion?
How much can this cost engraving?: Shy:

Amateur 26.09.2009 12:56

I do not know, as in Russia, and France is not very expensive: 10 - 50 Euro. See:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ILE-ROUDAH-Puits-...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ANTIQUES-Figures-...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Gravure-19eme-ANT...d=p3286.c0.m14

In old engravings dearly valued only first names (Rembrandt, Durer, Marcantonio Raimondi, Aldgrever, Luke Leiden, Callot, Piranesi, Canaletto, some Dutch XVII century: Waterloo, Everdingen, Romain de Hooge, etc.) and /or very rare engravings, for example, overtly erotic content (the church of "not welcomed" and destroyed as soon as possible). Quite expensive to run prints in color, filled with up to 1800 from the XIX century - Corot, Dobbin, Whistler, Delacroix, Yongkind, Constable, the Impressionists. At work, performed in the XX century, the prices here and there "inflated" artificially, but also are valued mainly first names. Engravings, executed for the books, are valued lower than independent works.

vit 26.09.2009 13:40

Amateur Thank you:). However, there is, in this case, the apparent contradiction.
http://www.oldimprints.com/OldImprin...mp;gallery=All
How can a print copy ($ 200-650) cost more than the original-source as: eek:???

Amateur 26.09.2009 14:36

It is difficult to judge. On the one hand, the price because you can assign any, even a million, another question - will buy it for this price? On the other hand, maybe this particular list something separated from the others for the better ... There is need narrow specialist in French engraving beginning of XIX century. In the end, it still shows the architectural landscape, and not just srisovka with Egyptian bas-relief. Look at the French eBay'e all the engravings of the XIX century and older, then you are more or less will be able to orient at current prices. There was and engravings similar to those available at the above your site.

Aleks-art 26.09.2009 16:08

This engraving, only a piece of knigi.Dumayu little interest to anybody, even for a penny.

vit 26.09.2009 17:28

Aleks-art, and if I have their 6.8-sheet? I know now, prints of such sheets in a mat and frame, modnyavo hang in the interiors of private vip-rooms and offices:) Actually this list is not from the book, but from the atlas. They nebyli sewn in a notebook ....

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 621906)
It is difficult to judge. On the one hand, the price because you can assign any, even a million, another question - will buy it for this price? On the other hand, maybe this particular list something separated from the others for the better ... There is need narrow specialist in French engraving beginning of XIX century. In the end, it still shows the architectural landscape, and not just srisovka with Egyptian bas-relief. Look at the French eBay'e all the engravings of the XIX century and older, then you are more or less will be able to orient at current prices. There was and engravings similar to those available at the above your site.

Amateur, at e Baie original engravings cheaper than printing copies. So, perhaps, is not to sell, and buy podesyatke there for a piece, and open Cantor Printing prints, with registration in the scope and sales. Ie costly part - large-format printer, and you can open a business: D: D: D
Sadly ...

Amateur 26.09.2009 19:58

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Сообщение от vit (Сообщение 622056)
is not to sell, and buy podesyatke there apiece, and open an office on the press prints, with registration in the scope and sales.

And where you want to sell prints? In France - will not go there, you see, and the original bulk. And in Russia ...: rolleyes: First, not a bad thing to spend marketing research, and then you can fold up. It is written in IE Wessely, to adequately understand the engraving, we must also "rise to the height of aesthetic pleasure."

Кирилл Сызранский 26.09.2009 20:05

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Сообщение от vit (Сообщение 622056)
So, probably, is not to sell, and buy it for podesyatke piece, and open Cantor Printing prints, with registration in the scope and sales.

You first try to sell the originals, and only then about the mass production and sale of printers you can talk.
Suffice specific product for our market.

vit 26.09.2009 20:48

If you are ever interested in magazines on interior design of modern Russia, Ukraine, etc., you might notice that some of the interior walls of offices, residential halls, classrooms, decorated with prints from engravings geograf.kart, tables, old photograph., arh.atlasov sheets, wall collections of coins, etc. Ie graph. images are not intrusive in the sense of - "for the patches. Certainly preferable to the originals, but it can not afford more affluent customers. And then it turns out that cheaper reproductions of the originals: D

Кирилл Сызранский 26.09.2009 21:18

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Сообщение от vit (Сообщение 622196)
If you ever interested in magazines on interior design of modern Russia, Ukraine, etc., you might notice that some of the interior walls of offices, residential halls, classrooms, decorated with prints from engravings geographer . maps, tables, old photograph., sheets arh.atlasov, wall collections of coins, etc.

And my journal with photos of interiors is not a decree, there is not as you see ...
I am in the market oriented and know that the prints themselves-heavy goods, and only prints with them is very white visionaries.
But I hope you are lucky and you put together to sell their condition or, at worst, kapitalets a no.
I have no doubt that the knowledge gleaned from the journals "design in interior design in Russia, Ukraine, you have enough for this ...
: D: D: D


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