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Александр712 06.09.2009 14:59

Help assess the plate and recognize the author
 
Вложений: 1
250x250 ceramic 17vek gilt-edging Flemish painting, according to legend, before the war was in the Louvre and then bought by Eric Koch, after the war bought my relatives

Кирилл Сызранский 06.09.2009 15:17

Цитата:

Сообщение от Aleksandr712 (Сообщение 591366)
then acquired by Erik Koch

Erie x Koch? Obergruppenfiihrer CA? Oberprezident East Prussia and Reichskommissar Ukraine? This?
Цитата:

Сообщение от Aleksandr712 (Сообщение 591366)
after the war bought my relatives

Your relatives after the war he bought?

sergejnowo 06.09.2009 16:15

Aleksandr712, usually on the reverse side, almost everything is written.:)

uriart 06.09.2009 16:43

Aleksandr712, a good painting.
Send photo bigger on both sides to address uri49@rambler.ru

наследник 06.09.2009 16:46

Цитата:

Сообщение от Aleksandr712 (Сообщение 591366)
then acquired by Erik Koch

In occupied Paris, Koch went on the auction?
Why do you write such things, set the best mark

Александр712 06.09.2009 16:51

j, hfnyfz side-clean without any marks

[color="# 666686"]Added after 3 minutes[/color]
Koch took a picture as I do not know-no stigma is, in the corner of the signature of the author, begins with L. S-on letters can not make out

наследник 06.09.2009 17:00

Цитата:

Сообщение от Aleksandr712 (Сообщение 591556)
j, hfnyfz side-clean without any marks

[color="# 666686"]Added after 3 minutes[/color]
Koch took a picture as I do not know-no stigma is, in the corner of the signature of the author, begins with L. S-on letters can not make out

I foresee, will start again, "groans" about how I was "torturing" newcomers.
So let remind Alexander 712 - the top section is the "Rules of evaluation ..." Here it would be good to follow when applying for help.

Деко 06.09.2009 17:57

Aleksandr712, the term "ceramics" in this case can be narrowed to the section "porcelain". What is the 17 th century? Porcelain appeared in Europe since the beginning of the 18 th. The quality and method of applying gilding said about the period of time until early 19 th. European thing, I agree with Uri, the quality of painting is high enough.
But why a good thing bad about the legends of the Louvre and Koch? Only harm

Александр712 06.09.2009 20:20

The picture is trying to assess, and named 17-century material, I like delitant could not properly be called, and her story told me the man to whom I have reason to trust and when it is possible to buy it for the views and dokazat.Spasibo vnimanie.Udachi

sergejnowo 06.09.2009 20:24

Цитата:

Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 591636)
the quality of painting is high enough

The quality of painting this work, ordinary European standard, limited release in the 10.000 - 15.000 pieces.
This is a reference to the sale of decorative plates on Ebee, sorting "expensive from the beginning."
http://kunst.shop.ebay.de/Porzellan-...& _pgn = 1
Most decorative (optical quality) items are in the price band up to 150 euros.
It is clear however, that the price level determines the manufacture, preservation, and rarity.


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