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martialig 31.08.2009 14:55

Painting Ivashev-Musatov
 
How can cost, which is considered up to this time lost, painting SM Ivashev-Musatov "Alexander Popov demonstrates Admiral Makarov invented a wireless is" the story of creation is described in the novel AI Solzhenitsyn, The First Circle. "

martialig 31.08.2009 17:27

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But this picture.

Amateur 31.08.2009 22:40

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Mysterious you have a picture.

"Picture" Popov Admiral Makarov demonstrates the world's first radio station, "written by former soldier I. Sorokin as a thesis at the end of the Art Academy in Leningrad. Artwork attracts attention compositional simplicity of construction: strict training (classroom) situation, a table with a set of It brainchild Popova - the radio station. At the table in admiralskommundire - Makarov. His gaze fixed on the radio. Near the Makarov is Popov. He also, as Makarov, considering the radio station and, as if from-vechaya to question the admiral, an energetic gesture of the left hand emphasizes the special importance of his invention. Business environment, expressive faces in the dim background-free technique letters illustrative of the big life experience, confidence in their views and beliefs of the interlocutors. According to the artist, the painting was conceived by him in the army, where he served in the Army Signal Corps radio operator. He was convinced, "... what a great role radio played in the Great Patriotic War, especially during landings, forward detachments. This is the only connection. "Sorokin After the war he returned to Leningrad and immediately set to work. Visit the museum context im.A.S. Popova, familiarity with the documents and materials in the archives, reading books - everything is included in the routine of his life. She helped daughter Popova Ekaterina Popova-Kyandskaya: she talked about her father, and his hard work, modest and even shy nature, has helped to provide his mannerisms and gestures. But how to depict Popova, where and with whom? been tempted to portray him at a meeting of the Physical department of the Russian Physico Chemical Society, 7 May 1895, where he first demonstrated his invention, but the situation here seemed too formal. His head swarmed thoughts, plans, sketches, drawings lay on the paper. Finally, a solution was found - show the creative co-inventor of radio, and a remarkable admiral, was supporting him. Reading books, documents about Makarov helped create his image. The plot prompted the museum's director of communications. Popov, with whom the artist met frequently. Makarov, according to the artist, was a modest, simple man with a broad, grizzled beard. He was always among the workers, shipbuilders, often together with them sitting in a cafe or dining room. And according to Catherine Alexandrovna Popova-Kyandskoy, he often visited them at home. Painting I. Sorokin received the highest score at the Academy of Arts and has been deposited in the Academy, as according to tradition, all pictures of the graduates of the Academy with this assessment remain within its walls. Later, the painting was awarded the State Prize, and he became Professor Sorokin of the Academy. "

It turns out that this picture is in the Academy of Arts, and does not disappear? Author - IS Sorokin, professor of the Academy of Arts, State Award. The fact is that on my work, I had to deal with radio technology, and the picture I had known since his student years. Fine demonstrate its freshmen within the discipline of "Introduction to the profession. Unfortunately, I managed to find at random, only black and white reproduction, but it is clear that this is - the same picture that depicts and you.

So who is still the author? Do not copy you have?

dedulya37 31.08.2009 23:22

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 579286)
So who is still the author? Do not copy you have?


To help you compare.

наследник 31.08.2009 23:27

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 579386)
To help you compare.

Different, but ..
And whom do you ask?
Ivashev-Musatov, Sergei Nikolaevich (1900-1992)

Ivan Sorokin (1922-2004)

Oleg Ivashev-Musatov (1927) - scientist, teacher, artist. Son of the famous Russian artist Sergei Mikhailovich Ivashov-Musatov.


Even here, the confusion

Amateur 01.09.2009 00:04

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And now different? The difference is the same as between the copy and original. And anyone at all saw the work of Sergei Mikhailovich (who later became somehow Nikolaevich) Ivashev-Musatov to her loss except MD Gershman, author of "The Adventures of an American in Russia. 1931-1990", allegedly saw the picture of this? I believe that this is not a picture Ivashev-Musatov, but just do not know whose copy of the picture Sorokina, attributed with a reference to Solzhenitsyn Ivashev-Musatov (by the way, is there a signature?)

I can well imagine that, and Popov and Marconi opened a radio almost simultaneously and independently from each other, the idea, expressed shortly before their Hertz, that is, "in the air." But imagine that the two artists independently of one another to the extent the same: to the smallest detail, so this represented the plot - I can not.

наследник 01.09.2009 00:42

Amateur, that the copies - the obvious thing. But it is quite obvious that I-M ever wrote this story.
Even if you wrote about this martialig, and Alexander Solzhenitsyn:)

K-Maler 01.09.2009 01:03

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 579426)
Covo: to the smallest detail, so this represented the plot - I can not.

Not quite the same way - they have a different format. We Ivashev-Musatov closer to the square and some details do not fit. Perhaps the relatives can not answer, this picture is not a needle in a haystack ...

dedulya37 01.09.2009 07:16

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Sorokin Ivan Vasilyevich (1922-2004)

I strongly doubt that my godfather is able to copy. : confused:
However, I can ask the family.

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 579576)
I can ask the family.

Just talked with the widow of the artist.
She has not confirmed the possibility of copying by Ivan works of other artists.
He and some of their copyright reps did ...

Konstantin 01.09.2009 09:01

Very interesting all the turns and confusing.
dedulya37 You have asked a family? Sorokin?


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