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uriart 27.08.2009 22:12

Help to read the signature
 
Вложений: 3
They offered a nice job, and the signature can not read.
Can someone help?

наследник 28.08.2009 00:31

uriart, I always wondered - a man thing before my eyes, you can take a magnifying glass, turn either way - and suddenly "help read".
  Yes please, that you have to consider, let foreign letters - to me, why my eyes to break your photo?
Although ... there are such "fans" may, masochism and will prevail. :)

uriart 28.08.2009 06:15

heir, unfortunately not everything is as you write!
If the work was in my hands, believe me, (not such a signature read!), As well, I just received the photo. And!

Allena 28.08.2009 09:54

uriart, very much like to help you (also in Signatures some experience there), but I can only read the date: 97

Amateur 28.08.2009 10:56

Цитата:

Сообщение от heir (Сообщение 573686)
Although ... there are such "fans" may, masochism and will prevail.

In this section of the forum 80%of requests, especially from beginners, it is of assistance in the attribution or in reading the inscriptions, or for information about the artist. If anyone can and will assist, it must be perceived solely as a noble cause, worthy only of gratitude. And to those who can not help, or who supposedly knows everything, but for someone to help another is a "masochism", so better keep quiet and not expose themselves to all in a very neblagovidnom light. And then inquiring would have to embed in your question the phrase: "And who can not help, so please do not worry"?

Now in the case. It seems that in the signature occurred any manipulation. Initially, the paint layer in this area has been softened in some solvent, because there the marks of the brush hairs smoothed. Then - even part of the unpainted surface of soil or debris - was applied to the signature. And then the upper part of it was somehow smeared out, and also clearly solvent. The top nine in number 97 drove to unpainted ground (or scree?), And there subjected to erosion.

Read the full signature of such a photo, I can not, need the best, with high resolution. But what is strange: 97, probably means the 1897, but the signature ends in "s" - and does not show any traces of the presence of a solid mark on the end.

Sometimes, of course, that the artist signs the work much later than the time of its writing. The paint layer in place for the signature of this has to soften, or adhesion will be poor. It is possible that the signature was applied after the spelling reform in 1918, and the hard sign fell. But why then smudge the top of the signature, make it unreadable? Riddle, however.

Вивьен 28.08.2009 11:41

Вложений: 1
It seems that the year 27, if you look closely, something more like a deuce than nine.

Allena 28.08.2009 12:41

Unfortunately, a bad photo, the light is distributed inhomogeneously. In view of what is written above Amateur, still more confused.

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uriart, but you can not ask the seller to send more photo captions?

Konstantin 28.08.2009 14:00

Cyril Syzransky is enough.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.08.2009 14:05

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 574616)
enough.

How do you say, citizen of the head. (from): D
But I want to draw attention: I only gave quotations, words that are not mine, thank God, the words from the forum.

Konstantin 28.08.2009 14:09

So I did not erase.
I urge not to deviate from the topic.


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