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gans 05.08.2009 15:01

Darkened the sky over Russia
 
Darkened the sky over Russia
Raven croak on the branch
Not enough people bread
Mirrors reflect the anguish
That came damned army
From Moscow rich palaces
Dark Gelman wants to take Perm
And ditch the children but youngsters
Sharpens his sword, earring corrects
Murderous fierce warrior
Skulls brow frames
Wants to make from Perm - Woodstock
Rise quickly people Russian
Remove swords of quilts
Away shall drive abominable artists
Look to the vast Russian plains
Let vzvevaetsya falcon over Perm
Let the kids play in the grass
Stop horned Guard
In ad send it to Satan!

We Gelman took http://maratguelman.livejournal.com/1178925.html

Allena 05.08.2009 15:24

This is the same, sorry, you know?

Кирилл Сызранский 05.08.2009 16:03

gans, there is a good question, I saw.
Цитата:

In which raises an unexpected question: why Russian people to this stuffed swords featherbeds?
: D

Евгений 05.08.2009 16:09

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 520546)
This is the same, sorry, you know?

I do not like people Permian Gelman and his artists ..

Кирилл Сызранский 05.08.2009 16:11

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 520846)
I do not like people Permian Gelman and his artists ..

Well, the author of "Verses" is not Permian people.

Евгений 05.08.2009 16:21

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 520866)
Well, the author of "Verses" has not yet Permian people.

Of course, but a brilliant representative ..

LCR 05.08.2009 16:30

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 520846)
I do not like people Permian Gelman and his artists ..

Yeah, like that:)

05.08.2009 17:02

Lapis Trubeckoy-looked at his pants white matting, dismissed the case back and said melodiously
He suffered a performance-Gavrila,
Gavrila Gelman was friends with ....

gans 05.08.2009 18:46

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 520806)
gans, good question there, I saw.
Quote:
In connection with which there is an unexpected question: why Russian people to this stuffed swords featherbeds?: D

Like what, kept them there. Melee weapons after all. : D: D: D

Кирилл Сызранский 15.10.2009 08:17

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 520416)
Dark Gelman wants to take Perm
And ditch the children but youngsters


Цитата:

Marat Gelman:

Rather, no. The fact is that people who say "I do not understand modern art", but say they understand Rembrandt - they lie to themselves. Because Rembrandt understand much more complex than a modern artist who speaks the language of contemporary writing, yes? There, video installation, you watch TV every day and then watch the work of video artist. And you know the time in which he lives this artist, you can build up in relation to contemporary art, much easier without the skills or there, historical context: where that is taken in these works, what it means. Ie this is some blende. They stopped to see that they do not see the old art. And it seems to them to understand. It them even more incomprehensible.

Just contemporary art is much more democratic than the old. Artist descended from its pedestal. If an artist until the early twentieth century was at the podium and spoke from a height, is another question that he could there to speak directly with the audience there, I do not know how Pushkin, or through some sort of prism of criticism there, as Velimir Khlebnikov. But he still spoke as if from a pedestal, with the height. Today the artist descended from this pedestal. It is the same man in the street and understand it much easier. We have done a remarkable experiment in the exhibition "Russian poor" in Perm. When the same phrase, so people often pronounce it "I, too, so I can" look at "black box" he has in mind - it is not art, looking at the work of contemporary artists, he says, "I am also an artist," when he says "I, too, so I can."

On the other hand, of course, artistic environment is receptive environment for the artist. Here and now you have to understand that the art falls into the museums there, before in 50 years or 100 years from now after 5 years, 10 years. Still, after a while just the art gets into museums, working with the public. And before that the artist works in an artistic environment. And it is his perceived environment, and it gives the assessment. This, I think, as there would be no problem.

There is a problem, well, maybe, you know, when people are uneducated - it is like not a problem, but there are educated people, but not in the wrong direction. And when this man suddenly comes and says: "But what is art - it can hang on the wall." Ie means what? This means that he has in mind is just an idea of what art is - is something that can be hung on the wall. And the dialogue with it already, of course, impossible. Ie he must first explain that the art of some other problem than they decorate the interiors, and then try to explain the specific work of art.
htt: //www.russia.ru/video/resheto_6115/


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