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Tretyakov abstain from risky pieces

At the exhibitions of the State Tretyakov Gallery will be works that might offend the feelings of believers. On this form of self-censorship in an interview with Itogi said the new museum director Irina Lebedeva. "When after all the scandals that accompanied an exhibition of pop art, we prepared the exhibition Sots Art, I have put some conditions. It should not be works that offend the feelings of believers, violate public morals, are extremist. In the end, Museum of the right to decide their own way "- she explained.

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Lebedev stressed that self-censorship, which she would like to see in the Tretyakov Gallery, is not confined to relations with the church: "Not many people know, but we have occasion, their internal scandals, when I took off work to show because they say, contain obscenities. And I blamed for this. But I think it impossible that the public museum of national art works were exhibited with the use of foul language. "

In an interview with Irina Lebedeva distinguished between problems of public museums and private exhibition spaces in connection with the "provocative" Contemporary Art: "Museum - the state institution, our goal is to give a modern material different status, type it into the history of art. But the most acute and provocative may appear in the galleries, the benefit of their set today.

Director of the gallery has also affected major scandal involving the dismissal in 2008 from the State Tretyakov Gallery, Andrei Erofeev, head of the newest trends, responsible acclaimed series of exhibitions both in the Tretyakov Gallery, as well as outside it ( "Forbidden Art", etc.). "In 2000-2001, when the Tretyakov Gallery, started working with relevant modern art, it still does not enter into our lives. It turned out that the contemporary art space has been conquered by it to us. And complex relationships, scandals have been part of this policy. Today, when pads weight, and held in Moscow Biennale of Contemporary Art, such a senseless way to continue.
Irina Lebedeva led the State Tretyakov Gallery in July 2009. Before that she spent four years as deputy director of the gallery on scientific work. Immediately after the appointment of a new position, Lebedeva gave a series of interviews about the present and the future of the museum.

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Dela "art critic" Khrushchev lived and win ..
And the yard is 21 ....( EA)

On the visit of the first Secretary of the CPSU Nikita Khrushchev in the Manege Exhibition December 1, 1962
Fully here http://forum.artinvestment.ru/blog.php?b=145

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 515166)

Remember, it was recently ....

there already sucked this art critic from all sides, as many sparkles
and exaggerate no end theme that said, an illiterate and hamovaty fitter - not a good tone
quote those who are appropriately versed in the art at a professional level

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515236)

said that the illiterate and hamovaty fitter - not a good tone

Quote not "plumber", and First Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR. The first person the state.
And really art, which "dealt with in art at a professional level," while every article starts with a quote Khrushchev.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 515306)

does not quote the "plumber" and the First Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR. The first person the state.
And really art, which "dealt with in art at a professional level," while every article starts with a quote Khrushchev.

rampant trend forum svoditi virtually any event and posts to dryannenkomu obsasyvaniyu ignominious milestone in the history of their country. they all know and all this in the 90's have spoken to burp in kitchens. so since then and drag everywhere this garbage behind him.
A little on the contrary - the glorious pages of history to remember, good, intelligent, educated people?
No, pancake, from any position to kick strive

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515346)

A little on the contrary - the glorious pages of history to remember, good, intelligent, educated people?

Let's remember the "glorious page", see which of leadership "praise" of artists and public.

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515346)

No, pancake, from any position to kick strive

Who "kick" something?

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515346)

all this in the 90's have spoken to burp in kitchens. so since then and drag everywhere this garbage behind him.

Maybe you and have spoken to burp "in the kitchens in the 90's ... Then you and not" talk "here. Let "nenagovorivschiesya" ceiling, those who are interested in it.
And you word first-person state "garbage" call, and he himself, "hamovatym and illiterate fitter" is respect for our history?

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515346)

rampant trend forum svoditi virtually any event and posts to dryannenkomu obsasyvaniyu ignominious milestone in the history of their country.

Try to change this "rampant trend" and not "chew over the shameful milestones in the history of their country,
It will be interesting.

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Сообщение от Mark (Сообщение 515236)

quote those who are appropriately versed in the art at the professional level

Dear Mark, ideology, the concept of exposure Tretyakov Gallery, which Lebedeva voiced on behalf of the leadership is the Stalin-Khrushchev stagnation in the field of culture and art.
Sad that Irina Lebedeva led a national art gallery in Russia.
You, as I understand it, like everything that is happening at this moment in the Tretyakov, I do not, here's what I wrote ..

Do not confuse ideology and the civil administrative code.

I agree with Lebedeva. I do not agree with Khrushchev.

And they meant quite different - Khrushchev rested on the ideology and practices are alien to socialism and styles of art.
Do not confuse "flies and cutlets.

Lebedev says nothing about the styles, trends and methods of painting. Lebedev says that he is talking about the legislation of Russia: the incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, bullying, insulting.

If you write in the center of Moscow on the wall of large number of bad and all known words, you will be punished for hooliganism. If you tell people in public shit, you can get to 15 days in the chamber. But why lout who calls himself an artist, wants his mate saw and heard everything? Often, but outrageous, these paintings do not have any artist. values. You've seen the Fair in the recent CHA? Posters with obscenities. Hurst unfinished ...

I think that in any European city attempt to write vsedostupny mat on the street is over driven to the police, so do not say that this is purely our problem.

Law dozhen be the same for all. And for a simple citizen and official, and for the artist. Unfortunately, we often do not comply with the rules of its own legislation - and curse because their own state. Laws should not be bad to just use them.

Critics immediately objection - why you think the normal observance of certain rules of the forum (no foul language and vulgarity), but also protects the right of Hama swearing in public and in writing?

If I'm in the Tretyakov Gallery (or any other Museum, Exhibition Hall) child, I do not want to see the mat on the walls. Do I have rights?

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 515876)

If I'm in the Tretyakov child, I do not want to see the mat on the walls. Do I have rights?

You simply wrong door. Entrance to the Tretyakov Gallery - go out and doubled to left. "Russian lettrism" does not show up on the street, and in the exhibition space. So on the streets you are in absolute security from any conceptualists.

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If I'm in the Tretyakov child, I do not want to see the mat on the walls

It is hard to disagree. A general problem of foul interesting phenomenon. I this stolkonulsya ten years ago. In one company had some very sosotoyatelnyh (specifically, the status), people who in ordinary speech have been using the mat. And flaunting it, then I strongly rezanulo hearing. Now it is fashionable. Who thinks about this? For art, how to rotate, reflect reality, and if used in high society it was necessary to speak French, but now appears to high heaven. And it flows and the pictures included.

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 515766)

And it is very sad that such an odious personality as Irina Lebedeva led a national art gallery in Russia.

Excuse me, but what is the odium of this person? We are well acquainted with her, even as some have done together this exhibition, I think quite a normal person, business, nice, pleasant in conversation ...