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Vladimir 16.07.2009 00:50

Attractive for investment, a modern Russian realism. What are the chances?
 
From time to time on the forum there is an interesting but unanswered question. The language is different, but the essence is: are there today in the modern Russian art (not the post-war, but that which is done now) worth realism? That realism - one of only a figurative recognition is not enough. And who among the current Russian artists such realism represents?

The following is a purely private opinion on the substance of the issue.

Normally intelligent Validating careful in the wording and intent, therefore wishes "between the lines' own criteria for this conditional" standing realism "undertake to specify itself. No beating around the bush, because of their depravity. Actually, why should be ashamed of? To be honest, most want to read:
1. To be cool.
2. Cool, so that not only the owner at his own disposition, but all friends of friends realized that it was cool. That is the quality of choice should be supported by the opinion of art critics, media, Internet, criticism, notable exhibitions.
3. To let the cost is not quite cheap (cheap is not cool), but still attributed the available money. Of course, very much like to be in the very beginning of growth.
4. To avoid the example of modernism, formalism is the realistic thing was "professionally written" with a clear plot. If not quite too photorealism, then close. And soundly as before. With skill Levitan and Savrasov. Best landscape with wheat fields, birches, and the prospect of the distance. Or "strong zhanrovik. But to inspire.
5. To the children did not have to hide.
6. To work possesses the investment potential: to admire, and then another, and earn money.
7. To the artist had a chance to stay in the history of art. What, perhaps, is the quintessence of "standing".

Success Stories

In other words, we can recognize that there is demand for a promising contemporary art (I deliberately did not use the word "Urgent") to modern, not antique prices, but that technicality and aesthetics to be almost a hundred years ago. It is surprising that the existence of actual, but the academic realism, usually without even being questioned. People simply want to specify the names in a specific topical realists now to invest?

Well, who knows - share candidates.

But IMHO it is still a level that "what the white light vAAbsche can not be." You can discuss long, who and how part of the story. But perhaps the mandatory criteria of historical success - innovation, the ability to make a step forward in the spirit of time and the ability of this time in something ahead. Is it possible today to implement an innovative model, while remaining within the high-tech realism (conditionally photorealism)? Some are trying to attack the story choice provocative, disturbing story. For example, fragments of pornographic photos, very realistically copied in a picturesque technology and increasing the size of a giant canvas. Right, so did Jeff Koons. It is quite possible that this courage will be rewarded with a solid entry into the story. However, bold and relevant issues are a dime a dozen. But this method, we categorically do not fit - do not climb on the criteria number 5 as a minimum. Yes on Issue 3, actually, too. Someone will remember more of the border with realism: there are landscapes Doig, is "Candle" Richter. But it's still more people from another era. And the names they are not Russian.

historical limit realistic landscape

What to do? Returning to our criteria - innovation that can be offered by the picturesque landscape? If reformulated as a question we get quite predictable logical plugging. You can try to get around. For example, doubt that innovation so necessary. And all the requirements of innovation - a conspiracy "artistic and curatorial mafia", advancing the actual art, which has enormous potential for speculation, "exaggerating" the significance, PR and price manipulation for future games.
Is not it enough that the thing was just beautiful, with talent made of? My answer - not enough. All in good time. And the loss of time (ie back in time) reduces the chances of occurrence in history to a minimum. The abstract example. In the forties, the early 1950's in America were the cult cars of mark "Packard. In addition to the Mafia in this gorgeous car drove Hollywood stars and other celebrities. Many specimens have been lovingly preserved to our days. You look at the silhouette, finish - beauty no words. A masterpiece of its time. Now imagine that the Packards began again to produce today. There are also companies that make cars, replicas? Imagine that we have done, was released again on the road, in one stream with faceless, but with modern Toyota and Audi. Beautiful? Beautifully. But what are the chances that novodelny insanely beautiful Packard after that will go down in the history of the automobile? In my opinion, the chances to zero. I have a feeling that the era of realism rolled almost before the era of Packard. And the realism that is done today - a sort of replica, which can be purchased for the soul, for decoration purposes, but without any investment plans. So lovers of realism willy nilly will have to focus not on new names, but the long-recognized masters who created the glory of their directions. Then, with the investment potential of the increasingly predictable. People as venture may be advised to gain strength poizuchat art relevance. Fortunately it is so versatile that anyone can find their subject. Let not pure realism, but something quite figurative - from Koshlyakov to Oleg Dou.

K-Maler 16.07.2009 01:37

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 477866)
4. To avoid the example of modernism, formalism is the realistic thing was "professionally written" with a clear plot. If not quite too photorealism, then close. And soundly as before.

You asked a good question. Search artists? As before, walking on exhibitions, will not work. In fatal reason: the exhibition of the artist today to pay and very expensive. The second reason: there is a filter. This is not the same as that selection. "Filters" for artists to participate in exhibitions often for reasons far removed from art. Remains the Internet, it is "dimensionless" ... On this site there is an order "not to offer modern and cheap." And? Perhaps still avert a "place" where even members of his site was placed candidates, ie simply the Sites? Otherwise - stalemate.

dedulya37 16.07.2009 06:25

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
Maybe still avert a "place" where even members of his site was placed candidates, ie simply the Sites? Otherwise - stalemate.

And what a good idea.
Or enter the subheading "I like ..."

Vladimir 16.07.2009 07:29

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
At this site there is an order "not to offer modern and cheap." And? Perhaps still avert a "place" where even members of his site was placed candidates, ie simply the Sites? Otherwise - stalemate.

Not a very elegant language, but how else? Its purpose was to ensure that the one topic does not shrink Fair Industry crafts and souvenir products unrelated to art. Otherwise go such "price lists":) In general, the present contemporary artists, and everyone can - no organicheny not imposed. Many well done.

gans 16.07.2009 08:49

Vladimir, I think, under all of your criteria are ideally suited to many artists just 50-90. years. And of those that are working today, maybe something will be clear after 10-20 years. Buy this "young" and practically "guess" guided by his instinct, and prices today "young" artists like to call it significant.

Allena 16.07.2009 09:34

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
Maybe still avert a "place" where even members of his site was placed candidates, ie simply the Sites?

I also support, but not the Sites, and some amount of work, but at least one, and a few words about the author.

Konstantin 16.07.2009 10:08

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On this site there is an order "not to offer modern and cheap."
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but how else? Its purpose was to ensure that the one topic does not shrink Fair Industry crafts and souvenir products unrelated to art.
This is how it's announcement in the "selling". And discuss and draw attention to the artists and their work - who are prohibited?

eva777 16.07.2009 10:15

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
today for the exhibition of the artist fee and very expensive.

Well, in general, then, as before, and now, the exhibition to build an alliance of artists, and it's free. Each year passes through several exhibitions, so who are looking for will always! And a lot of realism in these exhibitions. Just follow the poster. In CHA often holds exhibitions of painting is realistic. And for those who like realism, there is much to look at.

Buscador 16.07.2009 11:39

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
You asked a good question. Search artists? As before, walking in the exhibitions, not work.

Just a great question! And artists need to "do". Search for talented youth and supporting it financially and morally (to arrange the exhibition), to give the opportunity to ride on the open-air, make reservations for the narrative paintings, cityscapes ... Case of the artist to hone their skills and do not think that it creates a "masterpieces" ... and work, work, work, and, of course, to learn. In this case, the artist must chuvstvolvat that realism is his way of life, and then, perhaps, he will create something unique.
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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 477906)
Maybe still avert a "place" where even members of his site was placed candidates, ie simply the Sites?

I support!

Семен Семенович 16.07.2009 12:48

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 478036)
I also support, but not the Sites, and some amount of work, but at least one, and a few words about the author.

Also agree. Interesting topic. I try to start the first
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