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Евгений 08.08.2008 06:28

Buying a work of art at auction - no easy matter
 
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Leafing through the auction catalogs, pay attention to the obscure icons, carefully placed next to the number of lots: another risk to buy a pig in a poke
  http://www.openspace.ru/art_times/au.../details/2308/

Vladimir 08.08.2008 11:06

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 34996)
Browsing through the auction catalogs, pay attention to the obscure icons, carefully placed next to the number of lots: another risk to buy a pig in a poke
http://www.openspace.ru/art_times/au.../details/2308/

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But it happens that the seller and the auction house, enter into an agreement under which the owner of the subject receives a certain amount, even if the lot is not sold, - a sort of consolation prize. Such "guaranteed" lots in Sotheby's catalogs are marked circle 2.
Is really so? Ever heard of guaranteed lots, which are subject to compulsory redemption of the auction house in case of failure. And what kind of consolation prize?

Евгений 08.08.2008 11:27

Vladimir, Volodya at auctions, I once did not buy, first inflated prices by 30-70%, the second problem falshakov.
All the same you can buy in Russia in two or three times cheaper (I have a classic Russian art, socialist realism).
Article just like, I did zapostil who bought, can answer your question.

artemirra 08.08.2008 14:04

There lot can be guaranteed as the auction house, and some third party. Therefore, after the auction, even if the lot "to guarantee" is not sold - the buyer will receive money for it. Consolation prize - which means the same mandatory redemption. Just the buyer could get more if the lot was sold and went to bid on the price.

I-V 28.08.2013 23:08

Friends , this old theme appeal to you to :

please give a link to the article - user (I hope that there is one !) website " Artinvestment " dedicated to how to buy works of art on the Russian auctions ( buyer's rights , guarantees, documents, etc.) Thank you in advance !

манна 29.08.2013 00:52

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 2734081)
Friends , this old theme appeal to you to :

please give a link to the article - user (I hope that there is one !) website " Artinvestment " dedicated to how to buy works of art on the Russian auctions ( buyer's rights , guarantees, documents, etc.) Thank you in advance !


IV, I only have bookmarked this :

How to read the auction catalogs . Additional fees and taxes

http://artinvestment.ru/invest/ideas...825_marks.html

You can come in handy ...

I saw that you have to Russian , then is not it. But let it remain in the subject.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.08.2013 01:07

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 2734081)
buyer's rights, guarantees, documents, etc.

It's all spelled out in the rules of bidding auction houses.

I-V 29.08.2013 15:27

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Сообщение от manna ; 2734201 "
you will find useful ...

manna, thanks! It may come in handy. In any case, your link to this topic in its place.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2734211 "
It's all spelled out in the rules of bidding auction houses .

So, just for some reason I was sure that in a number of excellent articles and site AI have detailed " briefing " for buyers - what are the " pitfalls " when shopping at our auctions and how to get around them ? I thought maybe someone on hand ..

It is clear , for example, that the banks that issue credit, all the conditions prescribed , but before contact with the banks , still want to get a qualified third-party advice <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Here is another good article from the archives of the AI ​​in the subject. Let it be :

http://artinvestment.ru/invest/analy..._auctions.html

Кирилл Сызранский 29.08.2013 15:37

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Сообщение от IV; 2735261 "
It is clear , for example, that the banks that issue credit, all the conditions prescribed , but before contact with the banks , still want to get a qualified third-party advice

Since the rights and duties of the buyer in the rules prescribed bidding auction houses - you can read them before bidding.

I-V 29.08.2013 15:53

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2735301 "
So the rights and obligations of the buyer in the rules prescribed bidding auction houses - you can read them before bidding .

Read , then read , and who all laid out on shelves ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Explain , for example, which documents must to give the buyer auctioneer . house , etc., etc. It is clear that every home can have their rules, but some general rules should be ? That's what 's wanted


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